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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 15:45:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130204154502.GD2637@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130204154153.GA18237@arwen.pp.htv.fi>

On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 05:41:53PM +0200, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:30:03PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > > > I guess to make the MUSB side simpler we would need musb-dma-engine glue
> > > > > to map dmaengine to the private MUSB API. Then we would have some
> > > > > starting point to also move inventra (and anybody else) to dmaengine
> > > > > API.
> > > > 
> > > >    Why? Inventra is a dedicated device's private DMA controller, why make
> > > > universal DMA driver for it?
> > > 
> > > because it doesn't make sense to support multiple DMA APIs. We can check
> > > from MUSB's registers if it was configured with Inventra DMA support and
> > > based on that we can register MUSB's own DMA Engine to dmaengine API.
> > 
> > Hang on.  This is one of the DMA implementations which is closely
> > coupled with the USB and only the USB?  If it is...
> > 
> > I thought this had been discussed _extensively_ before.  I thought the
> > resolution on it was:
> > 1. It would not use the DMA engine API.
> > 2. It would not live in arch/arm.
> > 3. It would be placed nearby the USB driver it's associated with.
> > 
> > (1) because we don't use APIs just for the hell of it - think.  Do we
> > use the DMA engine API for PCI bus mastering ethernet controllers?  No.
> > Do we use it for PCI bus mastering SCSI controllers?  No.  Because the
> > DMA is integral to the rest of the device.
> 
> that's not really a fair comparison, however. MUSB is used with several
> DMA engines.

I only mentioned it because it _was_ brought up as an argument against
using the DMA engine API in the previous discussions.  I'm just reminding
people what was discussed.

> Considering all of the above, it's far better to use DMA engine and get
> rid of all the mess.

Which is what both you and I have been saying for the last 3 or so years
on this subject...

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-04 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-01 18:22 [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:41   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 12:49     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 14:44       ` Matt Porter
     [not found]   ` <5022f635a527470dbd0be932063e9cd2@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:49     ` Matt Porter
     [not found]       ` <2077c13e12314dc3adc8e5b653855da0@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:59         ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02  0:01           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 12:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:27             ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]           ` <e9be6668da8b4372a04687847daa1d8c@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-02 18:07             ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 18:16               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:48                 ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 21:02                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:06               ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]               ` <3245316d7aa94b2e823f98b69497547d@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-02 19:55                 ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 20:18                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 19:52       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 18:58         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 20:49           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 20:56             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 21:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02  0:07                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02  0:44                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02  2:09                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 10:18                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 12:17                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:02                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 16:27                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 16:45                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:17                             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 14:27                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-02  0:13                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 15:41                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 15:45                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-02-04 17:36                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 16:47                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 17:10                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 17:54                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 17:02                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 18:22                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 19:22                           ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-04 20:29                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 20:33                               ` Mark Brown
2013-02-04 21:11                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 21:47                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-05 12:38                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 15:37                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-04 21:54                                   ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 12:41                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 15:42                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 15:30                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 17:14                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 18:33                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 22:30                               ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 16:21                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 16:47                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 17:06                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 17:41                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 18:29                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 19:45                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 18:28                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-05 22:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-06  7:45                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 23:10               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-09 16:05   ` Sekhar Nori
2013-02-09 20:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-04 22:05     ` Matt Porter
     [not found]     ` <e92425fefcc04bb4ab739ec8d4e82672@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
2013-03-04 22:12       ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] ARM: edma: remove unused transfer controller handlers Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] ARM: edma: add AM33XX support to the private EDMA API Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] dmaengine: edma: enable build for AM33XX Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] dmaengine: edma: Add TI EDMA device tree binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:26   ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX EDMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] dmaengine: add dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:28   ` Matt Porter
2013-02-12 16:38   ` Vinod Koul
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: convert to dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 09/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: add generic DMA request support to the DT binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX SPI DMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:32 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter

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