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From: broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com (Mark Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:33:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130204203358.GX4720@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdZihnp3_Df==QRWxQupgi7W_YXZxc-MxkusVH6J+Vx56A@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 09:29:46PM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Cyril Chemparathy <cyril@ti.com> wrote:

> > Based on our experience with fitting multiple subsystems on top of this
> > DMA-Engine driver, I must say that the DMA-Engine interface has proven
> > to be a less than ideal fit for the network driver use case.

> > The first problem is that the DMA-Engine interface expects to "push"
> > completed traffic up into the upper layer as a part of its callback.
> > This doesn't fit cleanly with NAPI, which expects to "pull" completed
> > traffic from below in the NAPI poll.  We've somehow kludged together a
> > solution around this, but it isn't very elegant.

> I cannot understand the actual technical problem from the above
> paragraphs though. dmaengine doesn't have a concept of pushing
> nor polling, it basically copies streams of words from A to B, where
> A/B can be a device or a buffer, nothing else.

> The thing you're looking for sounds more like an adapter on top
> of dmaengine, which can surely be constructed, some
> drivers/dma/dmaengine-napi.c or whatever.

Broadly speaking what NAPI wants is to never get any callbacks from the
hardware (or DMAs).  It wants to wake up periodically, take a look at
what packets have been read by the hardware and process them.  The goal
is to have the DMAs sitting and running without disturbing the processor
at all after the first packet has been handled.
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-01 18:22 [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 01/10] ARM: davinci: move private EDMA API to arm/common Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:41   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 12:49     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 14:44       ` Matt Porter
     [not found]   ` <5022f635a527470dbd0be932063e9cd2@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:49     ` Matt Porter
     [not found]       ` <2077c13e12314dc3adc8e5b653855da0@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-01 18:59         ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02  0:01           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 12:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:27             ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]           ` <e9be6668da8b4372a04687847daa1d8c@DFLE72.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-02 18:07             ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 18:16               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:48                 ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 21:02                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-02 19:06               ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]               ` <3245316d7aa94b2e823f98b69497547d@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
2013-02-02 19:55                 ` Matt Porter
2013-02-02 20:18                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 19:52       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 18:58         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 20:49           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-01 20:56             ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 21:30               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02  0:07                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02  0:44                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02  2:09                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 10:18                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 12:17                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:02                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 16:27                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-02 16:45                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-02 17:17                             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 14:27                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-02  0:13                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 15:41                 ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 15:45                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 17:36                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 16:47                     ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 17:10                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-04 17:54                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 17:02                         ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-04 18:22                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-04 19:22                           ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-04 20:29                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 20:33                               ` Mark Brown [this message]
2013-02-04 21:11                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 21:47                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-05 12:38                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 15:37                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-04 21:54                                   ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 12:41                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 15:42                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 15:30                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 17:14                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 18:33                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-04 22:30                               ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 16:21                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 16:47                                   ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 17:06                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-05 17:41                                       ` Mark Brown
2013-02-05 18:29                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-02-05 19:45                                       ` Cyril Chemparathy
2013-02-05 18:28                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-02-05 22:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-06  7:45                       ` Felipe Balbi
2013-02-01 23:10               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2013-02-09 16:05   ` Sekhar Nori
2013-02-09 20:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-04 22:05     ` Matt Porter
     [not found]     ` <e92425fefcc04bb4ab739ec8d4e82672@DLEE74.ent.ti.com>
2013-03-04 22:12       ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 02/10] ARM: edma: remove unused transfer controller handlers Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 03/10] ARM: edma: add AM33XX support to the private EDMA API Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 04/10] dmaengine: edma: enable build for AM33XX Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 05/10] dmaengine: edma: Add TI EDMA device tree binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:26   ` Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 06/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX EDMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 07/10] dmaengine: add dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:28   ` Matt Porter
2013-02-12 16:38   ` Vinod Koul
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 08/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: convert to dma_request_slave_channel_compat() Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 09/10] spi: omap2-mcspi: add generic DMA request support to the DT binding Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:22 ` [PATCH v7 10/10] ARM: dts: add AM33XX SPI DMA support Matt Porter
2013-02-01 18:32 ` [PATCH v7 00/10] DMA Engine support for AM33XX Matt Porter

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