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From: pavel@denx.de (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:04:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130318180458.GC4230@amd.pavel.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130318175746.GJ30923@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Mon 2013-03-18 17:57:46, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 06:49:32PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > What I wanted to say is that kernel build traditionaly produced
> > something useful, something bootloader can actually boot. Currently,
> > make uImage produces u-boot image. Please keep that capability.
> 
> Unfortunately, there is a fundamental problem with uImage.  It encodes
> the load address, and that is utterly incompatible with the goal of
> having a kernel image which boots on multiple platforms.
> 
> uImage isn't going anywhere for the time being, but you will find
> that:
> 
> a) recent kernels will just wrap the zImage without a DTB, so
>    appended DTBs can't be used with it
> b) it won't work with MULTIPLATFORM-enabled kernels, unless you
>    provide make with a LOADADDR= argument to tell it where the
>    uImage is to be loaded - which is platform specific.
> 
> (b) fundamentally can't be solved in kbuild.  If you want to use
> uImage with multiple platforms from the same zImage, then you need
> to generate multiple uImage files with different load addresses.
> That's purely - and solely - down to the dysfunctional uImage format.

I know. uImage is not perfect. But solution should be "adopt a better
format" (ARM FIT?), not "drop support for making useful images
altogether" as Olof proposed before.
									Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-18 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-21  1:37 [RFC] Kbuild support for ARM FIT images Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21  4:26 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21  7:15   ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-21 18:58     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:18       ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:29   ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:03     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 10:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 13:20   ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 13:46     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:08       ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 14:37         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 14:46           ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 17:25         ` [U-Boot] " Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 17:40           ` Tom Rini
2013-02-21 19:21             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 19:37               ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 19:57                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 20:05                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 20:18                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 21:18                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-22  0:10                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22  0:39                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22 20:48                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-21 18:27           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:08             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:15               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 19:57             ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 21:14               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 22:05                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-21 23:11                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:50                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22  0:19                     ` Scott Wood
2013-02-22  2:39                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22  0:27                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22  0:41                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-22  2:11                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-21 23:18                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:28                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22  0:19                       ` Rob Herring
2013-02-22  2:22                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22  3:32                           ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                           ` <CA+T6QP=gHtOuZbjsbv5_GswZu7FUXW+9KVw6K06+5X_PNzqODw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-22 17:43                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-02-22  6:55                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 23:45                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-22  0:29                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-21 20:56             ` Peter Korsgaard
2013-02-21 17:37       ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-02-21 18:33         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-23  8:38   ` Joel A Fernandes
2013-02-22 16:00 ` Olof Johansson
2013-03-18 16:36   ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 16:44     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-18 17:49       ` Pavel Machek
2013-03-18 17:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-18 18:04           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2013-03-18 18:14             ` [U-Boot] " Stephen Warren
2013-03-18 19:57               ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 19:51           ` Wolfgang Denk
2013-03-18 18:29     ` [U-Boot] " Tom Rini

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