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From: jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com (Jason Gunthorpe)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 11/12] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada 370 PCIe device tree nodes
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 13:02:23 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130618190223.GA6578@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201306182022.08927.arnd@arndb.de>

On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 08:22:08PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> > > > Arnd, we've discussed this at length with you while getting the PCIe
> > > > driver merged, and we've explained this to you numerous times. Could
> > > > you please understand that any of your proposal that suggests writing
> > > > down static windows for PCIe devices will not work?
> > > 
> > > Where did I suggest static windows for PCIe devices?
> > 
> > Where does your new proposal buys us anything useful compared to the
> > existing PCIe DT binding that has been discussed at length with you?
> 
> I'm pretty sure I explained the idea above originally and was ignored.
> Jason Gunthorpe might remember better, but I think he liked it when I
> originally proposed doing it this way.

I remember it took a bit to understand your proposal, but I thought it
could work, but I admit I forget all the little details now :(

Ah, if I can just rephrase simply - the notion was to move the
determination of the aperture to use dynmic allocation and then
restructure the ranges around the mbus target, since they no longer
need to encode the aperture.

My concern: dynamically sizing the aperture is hard. There are three
apertures that need to be picked, and the PCI core code has no support
for dynamic apertures. Getting the aperture from the DT is a
functional compromise.

> * Since the host physical address for the PCIe memory space window
>   is set up dynamically anyway, there is no reason to hardcode it in
>   DT. We want it to be as large as possible, and this way the mbus
>   driver can just pick the largest free area itself after setting up
>   all the other mappings from the ranges property.

This seems to get really complicated if the mbus driver is ever
required to support dynamic mappings.. If PCI-E claims all memory and
then you modprobe something it could fail.

IMHO, I go back to my original thoughts. There is no real need for any
of this to be dynamic, we can use the values in the DT, presumably set
by the bootloader and things will work well.

The added complexity and failure modes for dynamic is simply not worth
it..

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-18 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-18 11:25 [PATCH v3 00/12] MBus device tree binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/12] bus: mvebu-mbus: Factor out initialization details Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/12] bus: mvebu-mbus: Introduce device tree binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/12] bus: mvebu-mbus: Add static window allocation to the DT binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 16:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 17:12     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-18 17:16       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 21:34     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 21:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-19 18:52         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 19:08           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-19 19:29             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 19:37               ` Jason Cooper
2013-06-18 17:46   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 18:24     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-18 18:39       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 18:44         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-18 18:47           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 18:59             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-18 19:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 19:27                 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-18 20:49                   ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 20:55                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 21:10                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/12] ARM: mvebu: Initialize MBus using " Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/12] ARM: mvebu: Remove the harcoded BootROM window allocation Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 17:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 19:43     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 19:51       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 20:02         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 20:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-18 20:39             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 10:02     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 16:58       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-19 17:58         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 18:03           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-19 18:17             ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/12] memory: mvebu-devbus: Remove address decoding window workaround Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:39   ` Jason Cooper
2013-06-18 12:17     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-18 12:33       ` Jason Cooper
2013-06-18 12:48         ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/12] ARM: mvebu: Use the preprocessor on Armada 370/XP device tree files Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/12] ARM: mvebu: Add MBus to Armada 370/XP device tree Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/12] ARM: mvebu: Add BootROM " Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/12] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada 370/XP DeviceBus device tree nodes Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 16:16   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 22:09     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 22:14       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 12:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/12] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada 370 PCIe " Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 16:29   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 17:15     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-18 17:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 17:21         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-18 18:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 19:02             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2013-06-18 21:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 21:40                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 12:06                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 21:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-19 11:12     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-19 12:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-19 16:53         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-19 18:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-18 11:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/12] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada XP " Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-18 11:33 ` [PATCH v3 00/12] MBus device tree binding Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-18 13:07   ` Ezequiel Garcia

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