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From: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au (David Gibson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] Defining schemas for Device Tree
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:50:31 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130730015031.GK29970@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130729172339.GT29916@titan.lakedaemon.net>

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 01:23:39PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 05:49:05PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:01:24AM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 02:21:52AM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> 
> > > > b) What information should be specified in schemas? What level of 
> > > >    granularity is required?
> > > 
> > > One item I don't see in this list is node ordering.  There's been some
> > > discussion lately on deferred probing (re boot times).  If we were to
> > > intentionally declare that DT are parsed in the order written, then a
> > > lot of deferred probes could be avoided by moving eg the pinctrl node to
> > > near the top of the tree.
> > > 
> > > This doesn't impact buses as much, since the nodes needing the bus are
> > > already children.  However, anything accessed via phandles: pins,
> > > clocks, regulators, etc could benefit from declaring and enforcing this.
> > > Eg having the dtc warn when a phandle is used before it's corresponding
> > > node is declared.
> > > 
> > > Not critical though, just a thought.
> > 
> > I don't think that siblings have any defined order in DT.  If reading a
> > device tree, there's no guarantee you get nodes or properties out in the
> > same order as the original .dts file.
> 
> That's why I raised the point.  If people think encoding initialization
> order in the DT is a good idea, then we should change the dtc so it
> compiles/decompiles in the same order.

I'm not actually sure what you mean by this.  dtc already preserves
order between input and output.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-30  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-29  0:21 Defining schemas for Device Tree Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29  1:30 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-29  8:27   ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-29  8:40   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29 15:01 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 16:49   ` Dave Martin
2013-07-29 17:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 17:23     ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 17:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 19:48       ` Mark Brown
2013-07-29 22:29       ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 22:48         ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 23:45           ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 12:12             ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-30  0:41       ` David Lang
2013-07-30  0:49         ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30  1:50       ` David Gibson [this message]
2013-07-30 12:17         ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 22:26   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29 21:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 22:20   ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30  0:02     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 22:23   ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-29 22:45     ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30  0:30       ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 10:25         ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 13:14           ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:19             ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:29               ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:34                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:45                   ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:49                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 18:03                       ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 18:04                         ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 18:25                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 18:28                             ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31  7:01                               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-01 20:04                               ` Matt Sealey
2013-07-30 18:26                           ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 20:57                 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 22:19                   ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 23:03                     ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 23:23                       ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 11:34                         ` Mark Brown
2013-07-31 12:01                           ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 12:21                             ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 16:29                               ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-31 16:41                               ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-31 16:59                           ` Dave Martin
2013-07-31 18:59                             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01 14:29                               ` Dave Martin
2013-07-31 19:57                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 20:47                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 23:04                           ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 22:16 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 22:26   ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:27   ` jonsmirl at gmail.com

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