From: david@gibson.dropbear.id.au (David Gibson)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] Defining schemas for Device Tree
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:50:31 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130730015031.GK29970@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130729172339.GT29916@titan.lakedaemon.net>
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 01:23:39PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 05:49:05PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:01:24AM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 02:21:52AM +0200, Tomasz Figa wrote:
>
> > > > b) What information should be specified in schemas? What level of
> > > > granularity is required?
> > >
> > > One item I don't see in this list is node ordering. There's been some
> > > discussion lately on deferred probing (re boot times). If we were to
> > > intentionally declare that DT are parsed in the order written, then a
> > > lot of deferred probes could be avoided by moving eg the pinctrl node to
> > > near the top of the tree.
> > >
> > > This doesn't impact buses as much, since the nodes needing the bus are
> > > already children. However, anything accessed via phandles: pins,
> > > clocks, regulators, etc could benefit from declaring and enforcing this.
> > > Eg having the dtc warn when a phandle is used before it's corresponding
> > > node is declared.
> > >
> > > Not critical though, just a thought.
> >
> > I don't think that siblings have any defined order in DT. If reading a
> > device tree, there's no guarantee you get nodes or properties out in the
> > same order as the original .dts file.
>
> That's why I raised the point. If people think encoding initialization
> order in the DT is a good idea, then we should change the dtc so it
> compiles/decompiles in the same order.
I'm not actually sure what you mean by this. dtc already preserves
order between input and output.
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2013-07-29 0:21 Defining schemas for Device Tree Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29 1:30 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-29 8:27 ` David Woodhouse
2013-07-29 8:40 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29 15:01 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 16:49 ` Dave Martin
2013-07-29 17:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 17:23 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 17:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 19:48 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-29 22:29 ` David Gibson
2013-07-29 22:48 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 23:45 ` David Gibson
2013-07-30 12:12 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-30 0:41 ` David Lang
2013-07-30 0:49 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 1:50 ` David Gibson [this message]
2013-07-30 12:17 ` Jason Cooper
2013-07-29 18:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-29 22:26 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-29 21:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 22:20 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 0:02 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-29 22:23 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-29 22:45 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 0:30 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 10:25 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 13:14 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:19 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:29 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 17:45 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 17:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 18:03 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 18:04 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 18:25 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 18:28 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 7:01 ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-01 20:04 ` Matt Sealey
2013-07-30 18:26 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 20:57 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 22:19 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-30 23:03 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-30 23:23 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 11:34 ` Mark Brown
2013-07-31 12:01 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
2013-07-31 12:21 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-31 16:29 ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " Thomas Petazzoni
2013-07-31 16:41 ` Sascha Hauer
2013-07-31 16:59 ` Dave Martin
2013-07-31 18:59 ` Mark Brown
2013-08-01 14:29 ` Dave Martin
2013-07-31 19:57 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 20:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-31 23:04 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 22:16 ` Tomasz Figa
2013-07-30 22:26 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-30 22:27 ` jonsmirl at gmail.com
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