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From: tony@atomide.com (Tony Lindgren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ARM ATTEND] Describing complex, non-probable system topologies
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 02:03:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130802090355.GF7656@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130801192730.GC9174@kroah.com>

* Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> [130801 12:33]:
> On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 07:35:31PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Whilst Linux implements a bunch of different bus types (many of which
> > are in fact virtual), devices sitting on non-probable, memory mapped
> > buses inside SoCs typically live on either the platform_bus or the
> > amba_bus. So far, this has worked out alright; the buses haven't needed
> > to be visible to software and no additional software control is really
> > required from the OS. However, as I/O coherency and hardware
> > virtualisation capabilities start to creep into ARM-based SoCs, Linux
> > needs to know the topology of the system on which it is running.
> > 
> > Naturally, this would need to be described as a device-tree binding and
> > communicate:
> > 
> >   - Buses which can be configured as coherent, including which devices
> >     on those buses can be made coherent.
> > 
> >   - How IOMMUs sit on the bus and interact with masters on that bus (the
> >     current one-IOMMU-driver-per-bus may not work well for the
> >     platform_bus).
> 
> I've been waiting for people to finally run into this one, and realize
> that they shouldn't be using "platform_bus" :)
> 
> >   - QoS and PM constraints. This isn't really in my area, but we do have
> >     buses that have these features and expect software to control them.
> > 
> >   - The system topology and linkages between buses and devices.
> 
> The driver core handles this really well, you just have to create new
> busses, and don't rely on the "catch-all" platform_bus.

Hmm do you have some example of a device driver that is generic and
is supported on platform_bus and some other bus?

For example, we have a need for a custom bus to do bus specific reset
and idling of devices for example but all the device drivers are
dt/platform devices.

Regards,

Tony

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-02  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-01 18:35 [ARM ATTEND] Describing complex, non-probable system topologies Will Deacon
2013-08-01 18:42 ` Dave Martin
2013-08-01 22:41   ` [Ksummit-2013-discuss] " David Brown
2013-08-01 19:27 ` Greg KH
2013-08-01 19:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-01 20:15     ` Greg KH
2013-08-01 20:18       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-01 20:36         ` Greg KH
2013-08-01 20:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-01 21:04             ` Greg KH
2013-08-01 21:48           ` James Bottomley
2013-08-01 23:16             ` Mark Brown
2013-08-02  9:03   ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2013-08-02  9:32     ` Greg KH
2013-08-02 12:34       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-02 14:14         ` Greg KH
2013-08-02 15:26           ` Dave Martin
2013-08-02 16:45             ` Will Deacon
2013-08-05  6:55           ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-05  7:11             ` Greg KH
2013-08-05  7:37               ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-05  8:02                 ` Greg KH
2013-08-05  8:21                   ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-05  8:51                     ` Greg KH
2013-08-05  9:14                       ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-08 16:50                       ` Kevin Hilman
2013-08-02 11:53   ` Will Deacon
2013-08-02 12:37     ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-02 14:16       ` Greg KH
2013-08-02 14:20     ` Greg KH
2013-08-02 16:09       ` Will Deacon
2013-08-02 22:32         ` Greg KH
2013-08-03  5:16           ` Olof Johansson
2013-08-05  6:47             ` Tony Lindgren
2013-08-07  1:52             ` Will Deacon
2013-08-20  6:59             ` Hiroshi Doyu
2013-08-07  1:49           ` Will Deacon
2013-08-01 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2013-08-02 17:08   ` Will Deacon
2013-08-01 22:26 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-08-02 12:01   ` Will Deacon

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