Start symbol for an compressed kernel

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[zhaobin xv]

how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[Russell King - ARM Linux]

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm

The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.

Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.

However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[zhaobin xv]

2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
>> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
>
> The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
>
> Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
> this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
> image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
>
> However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.

why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
Is _start the Start symbol?
how to explain _start

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[Russell King - ARM Linux]

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:56:14PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> >> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
> >
> > The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
> >
> > Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
> > this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
> > image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
> >
> > However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.
> 
> why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
> Is _start the Start symbol?
> how to explain _start

There is no _start symbol in the compressed kernel.

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[zhaobin xv]

2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:56:14PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
>> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
>> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
>> >> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
>> >
>> > The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
>> >
>> > Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
>> > this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
>> > image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
>> >
>> > However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.
>>
>> why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
>> Is _start the Start symbol?
>> how to explain _start
>
> There is no _start symbol in the compressed kernel.

But there is ENTRY(_start) and _start in
linux-2.6.22.6\arch\arm\boot\compressed/head.S

Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[Russell King - ARM Linux]

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 10:03:32PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:56:14PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> >> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> >> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> >> >> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
> >> >
> >> > The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
> >> >
> >> > Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
> >> > this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
> >> > image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
> >> >
> >> > However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.
> >>
> >> why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
> >> Is _start the Start symbol?
> >> how to explain _start
> >
> > There is no _start symbol in the compressed kernel.
> 
> But there is ENTRY(_start) and _start in
> linux-2.6.22.6\arch\arm\boot\compressed/head.S

There is no mainline -final kernel with ENTRY(_start) in that file.
I would be really surprised to find that a stable kernel ever introduced
such a thing without it being in a mainline kernel first.  Therefore, I
believe you are mistaken that a vanilla 2.6.22.6 has this.

You may have a modified 2.6.22.6 kernel source there.

Re: Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[Alexander Shiyan]

> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:56:14PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> >> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> >> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> >> >> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
> >> >
> >> > The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
> >> >
> >> > Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
> >> > this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
> >> > image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
> >> >
> >> > However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.
> >>
> >> why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
> >> Is _start the Start symbol?
> >> how to explain _start
> >
> > There is no _start symbol in the compressed kernel.
> 
> But there is ENTRY(_start) and _start in
> linux-2.6.22.6\arch\arm\boot\compressed/head.S

I always thought that the "start" is necessary for the compiler to tell it
what is at the beginning of the program. So, on my opinion this is just
a way to tell to gcc where we should place initial kernel data.

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Start symbol for an compressed kernel

[Russell King - ARM Linux]

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 06:12:04PM +0400, Alexander Shiyan wrote:
> > 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:56:14PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> > >> 2013/8/17 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>:
> > >> > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:39:46PM +0800, zhaobin xv wrote:
> > >> >> how to find Start symbol for an compressed kernel for arm
> > >> >
> > >> > The start address of a compressed kernel is the first byte of the image.
> > >> >
> > >> > Symbolically, that is 'start', which is a non-global symbol.  However,
> > >> > this symbol is useless since it normally is zero, because the entire
> > >> > image is relocatable and therefore built for address zero.
> > >> >
> > >> > However, it is normal to load the image not at address zero.
> > >>
> > >> why do U define ENTRY(_start)?
> > >> Is _start the Start symbol?
> > >> how to explain _start
> > >
> > > There is no _start symbol in the compressed kernel.
> > 
> > But there is ENTRY(_start) and _start in
> > linux-2.6.22.6\arch\arm\boot\compressed/head.S
> 
> I always thought that the "start" is necessary for the compiler to tell it
> what is at the beginning of the program. So, on my opinion this is just
> a way to tell to gcc where we should place initial kernel data.

There is a _start symbol in arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux.lds.in which
is used to define the entry point for linker purposes (and used to also
be used for some calculations in head.S).  It's never been defined in
head.S though.

As I've already pointed out, the symbol is practically meaningless - all
the symbols in the compressed image are merely offsets from the address
you load the image at because it is position independent code.

If you load the image at 0x8000, you call it at 0x8000.  If you load the
image at 0x12345678, then you call it at 0x12345678 and not where this
_start symbol says you should.