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From: mturquette@linaro.org (Mike Turquette)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 02/17] ARM: call clk_of_init from time_init
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:25:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130822072524.8231.37219@quantum> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201308212054.10417.arnd@arndb.de>

Quoting Arnd Bergmann (2013-08-21 11:54:10)
> On Tuesday 20 August 2013, Sebastian Hesselbarth wrote:
> > Perhaps Tegra is the common case but other SoC haven't dug deep enough?
> > IMHO from a HW point-of-view clocks are really among the essential
> > things that need to be running before you can do anything useful.
> > 
> > Just consider boot loaders that run fine without irqs but don't without
> > clocks (even if just represented by API). Maybe you are right, and we
> > should call of_clk_init(NULL) as early as possible. That would also
> > eliminate patch 1/17 as you suggest.
> 
> Timers and interrupts are also things that are required really early,
> and from my experience they tend to be needed earlier than clock
> management. Obviously you need some clocks to be enabled in order
> to do anything (including interrupt handling), but those clocks tend
> to be enabled in the boot loader, so we don't have to worry about
> reprogramming them this early.

Some timers need to know their clock rate for the timer setup. This
could be hard-coded (e.g. for some timer driven from a fixed 32Khz
source) but it could also be from a clock capable of different rates
that needs to be calculated.

I remember discussing the early clock init stuff for OMAP and there was
an idea to not rely on the clock framework for timer init and just do
some raw reads and compute the clock rate that way. Using the framework
would be better of course.

Regards,
Mike

> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-22  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-20  2:04 [RFC 00/17] ARM: provide common arch init for DT clocks Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20  2:04 ` [RFC 10/17] ARM: nspire: remove custom .init_time hook Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found] ` <1376964271-22715-7-git-send-email-sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
2013-08-20  7:26   ` [RFC 06/17] ARM: imx: " Sascha Hauer
2013-08-20  8:48     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20  9:10       ` Sascha Hauer
2013-08-20  9:20         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20 10:20           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 10:37             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20 10:42               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-20 10:46                 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found] ` <1376964271-22715-3-git-send-email-sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
2013-08-20 15:46   ` [RFC 02/17] ARM: call clk_of_init from time_init Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 19:47     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20 19:52       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-20 20:19         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-21 18:54           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-22  7:25             ` Mike Turquette [this message]
2013-08-22 17:28               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-20 20:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-20 20:57       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-21 18:51         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found] ` <1376964271-22715-6-git-send-email-sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
2013-08-20 19:12   ` [RFC 05/17] ARM: highbank: remove custom .init_time hook Rob Herring
2013-08-20 20:01     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found] ` <1376964271-22715-18-git-send-email-sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
2013-08-23  0:26   ` [RFC 17/17] clk: zynq: remove call to of_clk_init Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-23  0:59     ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-23  7:32       ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-23 16:00         ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-23 23:38           ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-26 11:15         ` Michal Simek
2013-08-26 12:07           ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-26 12:53             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-26 15:14               ` Michal Simek
2013-08-26 15:31                 ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-26 15:16               ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-26 15:33                 ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-23  9:30       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-23 17:19         ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-23 17:44           ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-23 23:22             ` Steffen Trumtrar
2013-08-26 15:20             ` Sören Brinkmann
     [not found] ` <1376964271-22715-9-git-send-email-sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
2013-08-20 12:50   ` [RFC 08/17] ARM: mvebu: remove custom .init_time hook Ezequiel Garcia
2013-08-20 13:12     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-20 14:01       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-08-23 10:06   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2013-08-23 10:32     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-23 11:39       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2013-08-23 12:13         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-23 14:23           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2013-08-23 14:34             ` Gregory CLEMENT
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 00/16] ARM: provide common arch init for DT clocks Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/16] ARM: call clk_of_init from time_init Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 22:19   ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-27 22:58     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 23:20       ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-29 13:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-09-04 19:32         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-09-04 20:41           ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-09-04 20:52             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-09-04 20:59               ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-09-05  9:34                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/16] ARM: dove: remove custom .init_time hook Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/16] ARM: exynos: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/16] ARM: highbank: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 23:13   ` Mike Turquette
2013-08-27 21:27 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/16] ARM: imx: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 11:00   ` Shawn Guo
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/16] ARM: kirkwood: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/16] ARM: mvebu: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-28  6:28   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/16] ARM: mxs: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 23:16   ` Mike Turquette
2013-08-29 11:08   ` Shawn Guo
2013-08-29 11:32     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 12:58       ` Shawn Guo
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/16] ARM: nspire: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/16] ARM: rockchip: " Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/16] ARM: socfpga: remove call to of_clk_init Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 15:38   ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-08-29 17:23     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 12/16] ARM: sti: remove custom .init_time hook Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 16:29   ` [STLinux Kernel] " Srinivas KANDAGATLA
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 13/16] ARM: tegra: split tegra_pmc_init() in two Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 21:59   ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-27 22:09     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-09-11 19:56   ` Stephen Warren
2013-09-12  6:21     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-09-12 16:32       ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 14/16] ARM: vexpress: remove custom .init_time hook Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 13:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-29 18:16     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-30 10:02       ` Jon Medhurst (Tixy)
2013-08-30 11:39         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-08-30 13:12         ` Pawel Moll
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 15/16] clk: vt8500: remove call to of_clk_init Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-27 23:16   ` Mike Turquette
2013-08-29 13:42   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-27 21:28 ` [PATCH RFC v2 16/16] ARM: zynq: Don't call of_clk_init() Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-08-29 13:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-29 14:21     ` Michal Simek
2013-08-29 17:20       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-08-29 18:14         ` Michal Simek
2013-08-29 18:20     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth

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