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From: matt.porter@linaro.org (Matt Porter)
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:52:19 -0400
Subject: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] ARM topic: Is DT on ARM the solution, or
 is there something better?
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:46:00PM +0200, Maxime Bizon wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 13:14 +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> > If DMA gives a performance boost for all workloads, what bloody idiot
> > defined or reviewed a DT binding that didn't include the information which
> 
> who defined it:
>   - hobbyist programmer without DMA knowledge 
>   - hobbyist programmer without time
>   - hobbyist programmer without datasheet access
>   - SOC-vendor employed programmer with deadline
> 
> who reviewed it:
>   - someone without time
>   - someone without datasheet access
>   - no-one (programmer was part of DT team :)

One more for each list:
    - professional programmer without datasheet access

I don't have docs for the parts I'm paid to work on. There's lots of
reasons why we don't know *all* information on day 0 and the notion of
binding perfection is flawed.

-Matt