From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv4] video: backlight: gpio-backlight: Add DT support.
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:57:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131101095754.GJ27864@ulmo.nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <003701ced693$2f856150$8e9023f0$%han@samsung.com>
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 08:44:48AM +0900, Jingoo Han wrote:
> On Friday, October 25, 2013 10:58 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Thursday 24 October 2013 13:05:25 Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 12:38:59AM +0200, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 23 October 2013 22:20:12 Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 05:51:13PM +0100, Stephen Warren wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/22/2013 09:01 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 05:34:45PM +0200, Jean-Christophe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> I'm sorry but the blacklight descibe in DT have nothing to do
> > > > > > >> with the common pratice that the current driver have today
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's not at all what I said. What I said was that the majority
> > > > > > > of backlight drivers currently default to turning the backlight on
> > > > > > > when probed. Therefore I think it would be consistent if this
> > > > > > > driver did the same.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also said that I don't think it's a very good default, but at the
> > > > > > > same time we can't just go and change the default behaviour at will
> > > > > > > because people may rely on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It may well be reasonable to change the default behaviour for devices
> > > > > > instantiated from DT. If it's not possible to instantiate the device
> > > > > > from DT yet, then it's not possible for anyone to be relying on the
> > > > > > default behaviour yet, since there is none. So, perhaps the default
> > > > > > could be:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * If device instantiated from a board file, default to on, for
> > > > > > backwards-compatibility.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * If device instantiated from DT, there is no backwards compatibility
> > > > > > to be concerned with, since this is a new feature, hence default to
> > > > > > off, since we think that's the correct thing to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > I actually had a patch to do precisely that. However I then realized
> > > > > that people have actually been using pwm-backlight in DT for a while
> > > > > already and therefore may be relying on that behaviour as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > It also isn't really an issue of DT vs. non-DT. The simple fact is that
> > > > > besides the backlight driver there's usually no other code that enables
> > > > > a backlight on boot. The only way to do so that I know of is using the
> > > > > DRM panel patches that I've been working on.
> > > >
> > > > I would very much welcome a refactoring of the backlight code that would
> > > > remove the fbdev dependency and hook backlights to panel drivers. That's
> > > > something I wanted to work on myself, but that I pushed back after CDF :-)
> > >
> > > Yeah, that would certainly be very welcome. But it's also a pretty
> > > daunting job since there are a whole lot of devices out there that
> > > aren't easy to test because, well, they're pretty old and chances
> > > are that nobody that actually has one is around.
> > >
> > > But I guess that we can always try to solve it on a best effort basis,
> > > though. Perhaps things can even be done in a backwards-compatible way.
> > > I'm thinking for instance that we could introduce a new property, say
> > > .enable, but keep any of the others suhc as state, power, fb_blank for
> > > backwards-compatibility. Perhaps even emulate them for a while until
> > > we've gone and cleaned up all users.
> >
> > That would work with me. I don't think we need more than a best effort
> > approach to porting existing backlight drivers to the new model. When it comes
> > to compatibility with the current interface, I'd like to move the
> > compatibility code to the core instead of leaving it in the individual drivers
> > if possible.
>
> I agree with you.
> Moving the compatibility code to the core from the individual drivers
> looks good. :-)
>
> >
> > > Or is there still a reason to have more than a single bit for backlight
> > > state? I don't know any hardware that actually makes a difference
> > > between FB_BLANK_NORMAL, FB_BLANK_VSYNC_SUSPEND, FB_BLANK_HSYNC_SUSPEND
> > > or FB_BLANK_POWERDOWN.
>
> On Exynos side, I have never seen that FB_BLANK_VSYNC_SUSPEND,
> FB_BLANK_HSYNC_SUSPEND are used for controlling display panels or
> Display controllers.
>
> However, I heard that FB_BLANK_VSYNC_SUSPEND, FB_BLANK_HSYNC_SUSPEND are
> used for some monitors.
I think that those may make sense in the context of fbdev, and looking
at some fbdev drivers seems to substantiate that.
However, I don't think backlights have any such capability. I mean they
are either on or off, right? There's no such thing as partially off, or
partially on. How would a backlight behave differently if the panel was
in HSYNC suspend mode or VSYNC suspend mode?
Thierry
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-18 15:04 [PATCH 01/11] of: add vendor prefix for Eukréa Electromatique Denis Carikli
2013-10-18 15:04 ` [PATCH 02/11] video: imxfb: Introduce regulator support Denis Carikli
2013-10-19 10:45 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-10-21 9:13 ` [PATCHv4] video: backlight: gpio-backlight: Add DT support Denis Carikli
2013-10-21 22:48 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-22 5:11 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-10-22 4:58 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-10-22 7:23 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-22 15:34 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-10-22 20:01 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 13:42 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-10-23 16:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-23 20:08 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 16:51 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-23 20:20 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-23 22:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-24 11:05 ` Thierry Reding
2013-10-25 13:57 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-31 23:44 ` Jingoo Han
2013-11-01 9:57 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2013-11-04 0:20 ` Jingoo Han
2013-10-31 23:37 ` Jingoo Han
2013-11-01 10:13 ` Thierry Reding
2013-11-06 0:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-10-25 20:10 ` Grant Likely
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