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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ACPI vs DT at runtime
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:19:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131118151900.GF16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201311181605.37300.arnd@arndb.de>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 04:05:37PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Saturday 16 November 2013, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 08:56:47PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > For all I know, doing this in ACPI is something that is only now being
> > > discussed as Intel wants to be able to reuse the existing features from
> > > DT enabled drivers in the kernel and share the implementation between
> > > embedded x86 SoCs and embedded ARM/PowerPC/MIPS/... SoCs. That part actually
> > > isn't as crazy.
> > > 
> > > The existing ACPI usage however is basically all binary and cannot be
> > > shared with DT, in particular it won't help for the orthogonal problem of
> > > using ACPI to get "enterprise server" features on ARM64.
> > 
> > That's strange, because the patches I've seen from people who want to
> > add ACPI support to AMBA are all based around very similar strings to
> > those in DT to lookup the same data in ACPI.
> 
> Can you point to specific patches?

No, because they weren't publically posted, so I don't feel that I can
say all that much; they were from quite a large company though.

> I can't say I'm an expert on this, but everything I've seen with ACPI
> is tables of binary data with four-letter identifiers that are defined
> by the ACPI group, but not using strings in a similar manner to DT.

They are using strings which are the same as the DT properties, but
without the vendor prefix - but yes, to only retrieve things like
booleans, u32s and such like.  They also have support for fixed-rate
clocks via the clk API too...

I'd like them to post the patches publically so a more open discussion
could occur.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-18 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-15  1:44 ACPI vs DT at runtime Olof Johansson
2013-11-15  9:57 ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]   ` <20131115175241. GB27174@quad.lixom.net>
2013-11-15 17:52   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 18:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 18:42       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 19:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 23:21         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 15:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-11-18 15:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 16:11               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:10             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:26               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 19:40                 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-21 16:00           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 18:13     ` David Goodenough
2013-11-21 16:15       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 17:47     ` Jon Masters
2013-11-19 11:30     ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:35       ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:51         ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 11:57       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 13:56       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-19 14:38         ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 14:59           ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 18:23           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 14:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 15:21         ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 16:19           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 18:34           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 19:06           ` Tom Rini
2013-11-19 18:19       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 16:37         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:29       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:01         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:38           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:58         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:19           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:33           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:54           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` < CAOesGMgzUSMDy99XojipfRd5OM88UhfbCYO0aoc5m-Q8Fwnddg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` < 20131121190126.GZ16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-21 18:59             ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 19:01               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 19:31                 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 20:44                   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:53         ` Mark Brown
2013-11-15 18:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-15 18:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18  5:19   ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18  5:26     ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 19:25       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:43         ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 21:25           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18  7:22     ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-18 13:55     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-18 15:00     ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 19:13       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19  9:12         ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-19 18:48           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-20  6:40             ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-21 18:16               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 19:21               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 20:47                 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22 11:43                   ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-22 12:00                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05  7:06                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 14:41                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 15:29                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 17:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 15:37                             ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:27                         ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 16:32                           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 15:28     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-18 19:09     ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:54       ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 21:50         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:32       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 22:47         ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 12:48           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 13:34             ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 16:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:23           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 14:33     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:49   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 17:43     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-20 17:47       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 21:44   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-17 17:18     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-17 18:10       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` < CAOesGMiYyOcvr3Aqs-p8zc=XDwJM9NZtNxtxrTZssc6F=siZCw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-17 22:20         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18  8:45           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 17:33             ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 17:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 19:21               ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:26               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 15:04         ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 21:38             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 23:25 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-18 23:29   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 23:34     ` Leif Lindholm

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