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From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: move firmware_ops to drivers/firmware
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:23:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131118172347.GE9838@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <528A47B0.1090800@wwwdotorg.org>

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 05:00:32PM +0000, Stephen Warren wrote:
> On 11/17/2013 08:59 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On 17 November 2013 08:49, Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >> The ARM tree includes a firmware_ops interface that is designed to
> >> implement support for simple, TrustZone-based firmwares but could
> >> also cover other use-cases. It has been suggested that this
> >> interface might be useful to other architectures (e.g. arm64) and
> >> that it should be moved out of arch/arm.
> > 
> > NAK. I'm for code sharing with arm via common locations but this API
> > goes against the ARMv8 firmware standardisation efforts like PSCI,
> > encouraging each platform to define there own non-standard interface.
> 
> Surely PSCI is *an* implementation of firmware_ops?
> 
> Couldn't firmware_ops be relevant to non-ARM architectures too?

There are similarities but you don't ask other architectures to
implement an l2x0_init function. If we find other things we want to
describe in here, does this structure become a pool of function pointers
to be shared by other architectures? What's the common functionality
that you want to place in this structure?

> If so, that would support my previous point; we're presumably not
> requiring non-ARM architectures to implement PSCI?

So you think non-ARM architectures could make use of the firmware_ops?

> On a practical note, unless ARM mandates by ARM architecture licensing
> condition that mechanisms other than PSCI are not allowed, then they're
> going to exist even if the upstream Linux community doesn't like it.
> History has certainly shown that.

I'm pretty sure they will exist, as there is tons of kernel code in
production devices that never reach mainline. And I already stated a few
times, this interface can be extended, I just don't want one per SoC
just because some vendors want to use different SMC numbers.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-18 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-17  8:49 [PATCH] ARM: move firmware_ops to drivers/firmware Alexandre Courbot
2013-11-17 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-18  3:05   ` Alex Courbot
2013-11-18 11:58     ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-18 17:03       ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 17:10         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 17:18           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 17:30         ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-18 17:52           ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-19 11:38             ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-18 19:04           ` Christopher Covington
2013-11-19 11:02             ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-19  2:46       ` Alex Courbot
2013-11-19 12:26         ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-19 14:29           ` Alexandre Courbot
2013-11-19 15:07             ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-19 15:17               ` Alexandre Courbot
2013-11-18 17:00   ` Stephen Warren
2013-11-18 17:23     ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2013-11-18 17:14   ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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