From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Forcing DEBUG_UART_{PHYS, VIRT} changes when switching between v7 platforms?
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:46:48 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140320124648.GS7528@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201403201245.34108.arnd@arndb.de>
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:45:33PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 20 March 2014, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > So yes, eventually these will have to be specified manually. I'm
> > probably going to move them into file(s) in Documentation/arm/
> > so that we retain the information in an easily accessible form.
>
> Ok, thanks for the clarification. On a semi-related topic, we have
> (once more) discussed adding an early printk implementation during
> the Linaro Connect meeting this month. I think this would all become
> much less painful if we had a way to handle console output in a
> platform independent way before the regular console kicks in, like
> a few other architectures do.
>
> debug_ll is great for debugging the extremely early code, since
> it works basically from the first instruction on, but a lot of
> problems actually happen much later. The early console code
> runs from parse_early_param(), which comes after setup_arch(),
> so we can't use to debug that part but it means we already
> have an unflattened device tree to work with for finding typical
> 8250 or pl011 ports. At the moment, pl011 doesn't even have a
> console_initcall, so it comes up only at arch_initcall time,
> which is about the earliest a normal tty driver can get registered,
> and a lot can go wrong between parse_early_param() and
> arch_initcall().
It depends how much crap you want to shovel into serial drivers. Fixing
stuff to work at console_initcall time basically means that the driver
has to have some way to find where the console is independent of the
driver model - because the driver model won't be up and running at that
point.
Yes, we could have a console_initcall() in there parsing the device tree
for a console port, but what console= parameter would that correspond
with? You wouldn't know which ttyAM* port it should tie up with because
you don't have that information at that point in time - and it's important
to know that so that /dev/console in userspace works.
8250 gets around this by having a static list of ports and a serial port
at well known address. We are far from having such a luxury on ARM - this
is unfortunately one of the prices we have to pay for the mistakes of the
past where there is no common layout for peripherals.
--
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improving, and getting towards what was expected from it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-20 12:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-19 23:38 Forcing DEBUG_UART_{PHYS, VIRT} changes when switching between v7 platforms? Florian Fainelli
2014-03-20 7:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-20 10:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 11:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-20 12:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-04-14 14:25 ` Domenico Andreoli
2014-03-20 18:22 ` Florian Fainelli
2014-03-20 18:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-03-20 13:36 ` Rob Herring
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