From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: mm: dma: Update coherent streaming apis with missing memory barrier
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:07:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140422150725.GD10224@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53567352.1080306@ti.com>
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 02:49:06PM +0100, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2014 06:28 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 07:03:10PM +0100, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >> ARM coherent CPU dma map APIS are assumed to be nops on cache coherent
> >> machines. While this is true, one still needs to ensure that no
> >> outstanding writes are pending in CPU write buffers. To take care
> >> of that, we at least need a memory barrier to commit those changes
> >> to main memory.
> >>
> >> Patch is trying to fix those cases. Without such a patch, you will
> >> end up patching device drivers to avoid the synchronisation issues.
> >
> > Don't you only need these barriers if you're passing ownership of a CPU
> > buffer to a device? In that case, I would expect a subsequent writel to tell
> > the device about the new buffer, which includes the required __iowmb().
> > That's the reason for the relaxed accessors: to avoid this barrier when it's
> > not needed. Perhaps you're using the relaxed accessors where you actually
> > need the stronger ordering guarantees?
>
> I kind of guessed some one will bring up above point. Infact this is how
> mostly people have been living with the issue on coherent machines. On
> Keystone too, we did explicit barriers in respective drivers.
>
> I have added these barriers only on CPU to device streaming APIs because on
> other direction, the memory is already upto date from CPU's perspective.
>
> But if you look at the actual problem, its really responsibility of
> DMA streaming APIs which we are trying to push on to drivers. A device
> driver should be independent of whether it is running on a coherent or
> a non-coherent CPU.
>
> Lets take a example....
> MMC controller driver running on a non-coherent and coherent machine.
> Driver has below code sequence which is generic.
> 1. Prepare SG list
> 2. Perform CMO using DMA streaming API
> 3. Start DMA transfer...
The key here is how you start the DMA transfer. So far we assumed it's
done via an I/O operation like writel() and it has the right barriers.
If we have other ways for starting this (like writing the dma_addr in
some other memory descriptor), should we use explicit memory barriers?
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-04-22 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-21 18:03 [PATCH] ARM: mm: dma: Update coherent streaming apis with missing memory barrier Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 10:28 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-22 13:49 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 14:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 14:36 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 19:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 19:58 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 20:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 20:30 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-23 9:02 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-23 16:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-23 17:17 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-23 18:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-23 18:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-23 19:04 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 10:47 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24 11:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 11:21 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 13:38 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-24 14:09 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 14:44 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-24 19:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-23 19:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-24 10:58 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 12:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-24 12:37 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 9:54 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24 11:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 9:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24 9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 10:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-02 21:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2014-05-06 10:01 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-22 15:07 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2014-04-22 15:18 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 15:30 ` Catalin Marinas
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