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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: mm: dma: Update coherent streaming apis with missing memory barrier
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 10:02:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140423090251.GA5281@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5356D163.1070304@ti.com>

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 09:30:27PM +0100, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 April 2014 04:23 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 22 April 2014 15:58:09 Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 22 April 2014 03:53 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 22 April 2014, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
> >>>> On Tuesday 22 April 2014 10:08 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >>>>> It's not the nicest API ever, but that's what it is and has been, mostly
> >>>>> for compatibility with x86, where the 'mov' instruction performing the
> >>>>> store to MMIO registers implies that all writes to DMA memory are
> >>>>> visible to the device.
> >>>>>
> >>>> This is not about writel() and  writel_relaxed(). The driver don't
> >>>> need that barrier. For example if the actual start of the DMA
> >>>> happens bit later, that doesn't matter for the driver.
> >>>>
> >>>> DMA APIs already do barriers today for non-coherent case. We
> >>>> are not talking anything new here. Sorry but I don't see the
> >>>> connection here.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think they do, nor should they. Can you tell me where
> >>> you see a barrier in dma_sync_single_for_cpu() or 
> >>> arm_dma_sync_single_for_device()? For all I can tell, they
> >>> only deal with L1 and L2 cache maintainance in arm_dma_ops.
> >>>
> >> The cache APIs used by dma_ops do have the necessary barriers
> >> at end of the of the cache operations. Thats what I meant. So for
> >> end user(Device driver), its transparent.
> > 
> > Ok, I see it now for the noncoherent operations, and I see
> > the same thing on PowerPC and MIPS, which also have both coherent
> > and noncoherent versions of their dma_map_ops.
> > 
> > However, I also see that neither of those does a wmb() for the
> > coherent version. I don't see why ARM should be different from
> > the others here, so if there is a reason to do a barrier there,
> > we should change all architectures. I still don't see a reason
> > why the barrier is needed though.
> > 
> Thats fair.
> 
> > Can you be more specific in your driver example why you think
> > the barrier in the writel() is not sufficient?
> > 
> writel() or an explcit barrier in the driver will do the job. I was
> just thinking that we are trying to work around the short comings
> of streaming API by adding barriers in the driver. For example
> on a non-coherent system, i don't need that barrier because
> dma_ops does take care of that.

I wonder whether we can remove those barriers altogether then (from the DMA
cache operations). For the coherent case, the driver must provide the
barrier (probably via writel) so the non-coherent case shouldn't be any
different.

I need some more coffee and a serious look at the code, but we may be able
to use dmb instructions to order the cache maintenance and avoid a final
dsb for completion.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-23  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-21 18:03 [PATCH] ARM: mm: dma: Update coherent streaming apis with missing memory barrier Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 10:28 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-22 13:49   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 14:08     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 14:36       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 19:53         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 19:58           ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 20:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-22 20:30               ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-23  9:02                 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-04-23 16:02                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-23 17:17                     ` Will Deacon
2014-04-23 18:37                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-23 18:58                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-23 19:04                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 10:47                             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24 11:15                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 11:21                                 ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 13:38                                   ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-24 14:09                                     ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 14:44                                       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-24 19:12                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-23 19:34                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2014-04-24 10:58                           ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24 12:12                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-24 12:37                               ` Will Deacon
2014-04-24  9:54                         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24 11:13                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24  9:09                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-24  9:16                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-04-24 10:13                           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-05-02 21:33                       ` Joel Fernandes
2014-05-06 10:01                         ` Will Deacon
2014-04-22 15:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-04-22 15:18       ` Santosh Shilimkar
2014-04-22 15:30         ` Catalin Marinas

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