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From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 11:00:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140521090037.GA19268@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4367469.BqpJyVF8PT@wuerfel>

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:50:38AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 May 2014 10:26:11 Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:26:12PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 20 May 2014 16:24:59 Dave Martin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 02:41:18PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 20 May 2014 14:02:43 Thierry Reding wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > > Multiple-master IOMMU:
> > > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	iommu {
> > > > > > 		/* the specifier represents the ID of the master */
> > > > > > 		#address-cells = <1>;
> > > > > > 		#size-cells = <0>;
> > > > 
> > > > How do we know the size of the input address to the IOMMU?  Do we
> > > > get cases for example where the IOMMU only accepts a 32-bit input
> > > > address, but some 64-bit capable masters are connected through it?
> > > 
> > > I was stuck on this question for a while before, but then I realized
> > > that it doesn't matter at all: It's the IOMMU driver itself that
> > > manages the address space, and it doesn't matter if a slave can
> > > address a larger range than the IOMMU can accept. If the IOMMU
> > > needs to deal with the opposite case (64-bit input addresses
> > > but a 32-bit master), that limitation can be put into the specifier.
> > 
> > Isn't this what DMA masks are for? Couldn't the IOMMU simply use the
> > master device's DMA mask to do the right thing here?
> 
> Ah, yes. I guess that's the right way to do it.
> 
> > > > For determining dma masks, it is the output address that it
> > > > important.  Santosh's code can probably be taught to handle this,
> > > > if given an additional traversal rule for following "iommus"
> > > > properties.  However, deploying an IOMMU whose output address size
> > > > is smaller than the 
> > > 
> > > Something seems to be missing here. I don't think we want to handle
> > > the case where the IOMMU output cannot the entire memory address
> > > space. If necessary, that would mean using both an IOMMU driver
> > > and swiotlb, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that hardware
> > > isn't /that/ crazy.
> > 
> > Similarily, should the IOMMU not be treated like any other device here?
> > Its DMA mask should determine what address range it can access.
> 
> Right. But for that we need a dma-ranges property in the parent of the
> iommu, just so the mask can be set correctly and we don't have to
> rely on the 32-bit fallback case.

Shouldn't the IOMMU driver be the one to set the DMA mask for the device
in exactly the same way that other drivers override the 32-bit default?

Thierry
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-21  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-16 12:23 [PATCH] devicetree: Add generic IOMMU device tree bindings Thierry Reding
2014-05-17  8:04 ` Cho KyongHo
2014-05-17 20:48   ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-19 10:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 12:53   ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-19 17:22     ` Dave Martin
2014-05-19 20:32       ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 10:08         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 13:07           ` Dave Martin
2014-05-20 13:23             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 15:26               ` Will Deacon
2014-05-20 16:39                 ` Dave Martin
2014-05-20 20:40                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 18:34     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 20:59       ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 10:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 11:05           ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 11:15             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 12:02               ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 12:41                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 13:17                   ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 13:34                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 14:00                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-20 20:31                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  8:16                           ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  8:54                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  9:02                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  9:32                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 15:44                                   ` Grant Grundler
2014-05-21 16:01                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-20 15:24                   ` Dave Martin
2014-05-20 20:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  8:26                       ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21  8:50                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21  9:00                           ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2014-05-21  9:36                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 10:50                               ` Thierry Reding
2014-05-21 14:01                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-21 17:09                             ` Dave Martin
2014-05-21 18:11                               ` Arnd Bergmann

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