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From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Android and compatibility with deprecated armv7 instructions
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:52:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140707145208.GC32578@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20140707T153253-384@post.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 01:59:54PM +0000, Janne Grunau wrote:
> Arnd Bergmann <arnd <at> arndb.de> writes:
> > but I don't see how we could emulate IT without anything
> > short of a full interpretation of user instructions from the kernel.
> 
> Avoiding deprecated forms of IT would be harder. It's used more often in
> libav (~50 times)

Is this explicitly written IT instructions or in generated code (gas,
gcc)?

> so it should be only disabled if it's emulated or not
> available using an explicit HWCAP. Not using Thumb for those functions would
> be another option for libav. Again this doesn't fix existing binaries and it
> doesn't fix compiled code.

As I said, I don't see this going away (easily). I've heard the
toolchain guys adding warnings but they don't help unless you rebuild
your code. Given the amount of IT instructions, I don't even propose
adding emulation/warnings to the kernel for the time being (that would
be step 1 in my "instruction deprecation" proposal, we have to think
about it; some trapping would be handy to to assess the impact but
still defaulting to native).

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-07 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-01 23:06 Android and compatibility with deprecated armv7 instructions Colin Cross
2014-07-01 23:42 ` Olof Johansson
2014-07-01 23:48   ` Mark Brown
2014-07-02 10:01     ` Will Deacon
2014-07-02 15:48       ` Colin Cross
2014-07-02 16:16         ` Will Deacon
2014-07-02 18:03           ` Christopher Covington
2014-07-02 18:25             ` Will Deacon
2014-07-02 19:47               ` Mark Brown
2014-07-05 21:26           ` Rob Herring
2014-07-02 16:39       ` Mark Brown
2014-07-02 17:01         ` Will Deacon
2014-07-02 17:33           ` Mark Brown
2014-07-02 22:14           ` Grant Likely
2014-07-03 10:41             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-03 14:28               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-03 15:00                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 15:40                   ` Grant Likely
2014-07-03 17:13                   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-03 17:48                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 18:15                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-03 18:30                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 18:37                         ` Will Deacon
2014-07-03 18:52                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 19:00                             ` Will Deacon
2014-07-04  8:57                         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-04  9:25                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-04 10:12                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-04 14:09                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2014-07-04 12:56                             ` Grant Likely
2014-07-04 13:31                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 18:46                       ` Will Deacon
2014-07-03 18:53                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-03 19:07                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 19:40                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-04 13:25                     ` Grant Likely
2014-07-03 16:22               ` Grant Likely
2014-07-03 17:05                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-03 17:32                   ` Will Deacon
2014-07-03 18:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-03 18:38                       ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-03 18:40                       ` Will Deacon
2014-07-03 18:32                     ` Mark Brown
2014-07-03 22:16                     ` Måns Rullgård
2014-07-03 22:47                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-04  7:08                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-07-04  8:24                           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-04  8:33                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-07-04  9:21                               ` Måns Rullgård
2014-07-04  9:34                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-04 10:21                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2014-07-04 10:33                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-04 11:00                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-07-04 17:28                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-07-03 17:43                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-04 13:22                   ` Grant Likely
2014-07-04 19:24                     ` Mark Brown
2014-07-04 19:33                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-04 22:06                         ` Måns Rullgård
2014-07-04 22:08                         ` Mark Brown
2014-07-05 11:14                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-05 11:25                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-07-05 16:43                       ` Mark Brown
2014-07-05 17:06                         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-05 18:43                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-05 21:19                             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-06 15:39                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-07 13:59                                 ` Janne Grunau
2014-07-07 14:52                                   ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2014-07-07 17:52                                     ` Janne Grunau
2014-07-07 15:43                                   ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-08  5:28                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2014-07-07 14:35                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-07 21:26                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-07 12:28                       ` Grant Likely
2014-07-07 18:35                         ` Colin Cross

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