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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv4 5/5] arm64: cpuinfo: print info for all CPUs
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 10:53:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140718095311.GA1818@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140718092744.GA19850@arm.com>

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 10:27:44AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 06:28:58PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 06:10:58PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 02:55:37PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > > On 17 July 2014 13:35, Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com> wrote:
> > > > > We're not denying the possibility of heterogeneity, we're trying to expose a
> > > > > consistent view of the system to userspace. Differences between cores should
> > > > > be dealt with by the kernel (e.g. IKS, HMP scheduling), not blindly
> > > > > passed off to userspace.
> > > > 
> > > > On that basis, why report anything at all about invididual cores?
> > > > Just have /proc/cpuinfo report "number of processors: 4" and
> > > > no per-CPU information at all...
> > > 
> > > We lost a lot of time on this already (given the internal threads). So
> > > my proposal is to go ahead with Mark's patch with per-CPU features. They
> > > currently just include the same elf_hwcap multiple times. If we ever
> > > need to present different features, the conditions would be:
> > > 
> > > 1. Never report more than elf_hwcap
> > > 2. elf_hwcap can only include non-symmetric features *if* Linux gets a
> > >    way to transparently handle migration or emulation
> > 
> > ... making the point of a per-cpu field entirely pointless ;)
> 
> Well, if we can support such features in a transparent way,
> /proc/cpuinfo becomes more informative (e.g. user wondering why a
> process runs only on certain CPUs).
> 
> But to be clear (and I think we are aligned), I don't trust user space
> to parse all processors in /proc/cpuinfo and make an informed selection
> of CPU affinity to avoid SIGILL.
> 
> Yet another option would be to have a single features/hwcap line and
> present the extra features in a human (and only human) readable form
> (e.g. some haiku that changes with every kernel release ;)).

Or just have the single features line, then the per-cpu line can be called
`flags' or something, like Ard suggested. If userspace decides to parse
flags, it deserves all the pain that it gets.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-18  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-16 15:32 [PATCHv4 0/5] arm64: handle heterogeneous system register values Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:32 ` [PATCHv4 1/5] arm64: add MIDR_EL1 field accessors Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:32 ` [PATCHv4 2/5] arm64: cpuinfo: record cpu system register values Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:32 ` [PATCHv4 3/5] arm64: cachetype: report weakest cache policy Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:32 ` [PATCHv4 4/5] arm64: add runtime system sanity checks Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:32 ` [PATCHv4 5/5] arm64: cpuinfo: print info for all CPUs Mark Rutland
2014-07-16 15:57   ` Will Deacon
2014-07-17 10:30     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-17 10:39     ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-17 10:46       ` Marcus Shawcroft
2014-07-17 10:54         ` Will Deacon
2014-07-17 11:09           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2014-07-17 11:12           ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-17 12:35             ` Will Deacon
2014-07-17 13:55               ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-17 17:10                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-17 17:28                   ` Will Deacon
2014-07-18  9:27                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-18  9:53                       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-07-18 13:57                         ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-18 15:52                           ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-18 15:58                             ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-18 16:18                               ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-18 16:41                                 ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-18 20:24                                   ` Christopher Covington
2014-07-16 15:55 ` [PATCHv4 0/5] arm64: handle heterogeneous system register values Will Deacon
2014-07-17 11:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-17 14:21   ` Mark Rutland
2014-07-17 14:28     ` Will Deacon

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