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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:57:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140902105730.GH25379@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54059F05.2090901@samsung.com>

On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:42:13AM +0100, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> On 2014-09-02 10:56, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 September 2014 10:48:02 Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> >>>    -- I have concerns that allocating one domain per master might be
> >>> too much, but it's hard to tell without an IOMMU driver ported over.
> >> One domain per master is IMHO a sane default configuration. The only default
> >> alternative I see is to have only one domain (related with dma-mapping
> >> subsystem) and bind all devices to it. However I really don't see any
> >> disadvantage of having separate domain per each master and such
> >> configuration
> >> gives devices better separation.
> > I was expecting that the dma-mapping implementation would by default use
> > one domain for all devices, since that is what the simpler IOMMUs without
> > domain support have to do anyway.
> >
> > For isolation purposes, it can only help to have more domains, but
> > I would guess that there is some space overhead in maintaining lots
> > of page tables.
> 
> I'm okay with both approaches (separate domain for each device vs. single
> common domain for all devices). Maybe this can be some kind of Kconfig
> option added to DMA debugging? Separation might be really helpful when
> debugging strange device behavior.

One potential problem with a single domain is when you have multiple
instances of a given IOMMU, each with different hardware restrictions.
Then you can end up with multiple sets of page tables for the domain
which, although not impossible to work with, is a bit of a mess.

I think having one domain per IOMMU instance would make the most sense,
but then you have to teach more of the stack about the IOMMU topology. I
think we'll get there in the end, but that's a little way off right now.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-02 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-29 15:54 [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] iommu: provide early initialisation hook for IOMMU drivers Will Deacon
2014-09-01  7:52   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:31     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:36       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02  6:56     ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:47   ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 15:04     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] dma-mapping: replace set_arch_dma_coherent_ops with arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-01 14:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:20     ` Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] iommu: add new iommu_ops callback for adding a device with a set of IDs Will Deacon
2014-09-01  8:13   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:39     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:34       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 17:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] iommu: provide helper function to configure an IOMMU for an of master Will Deacon
2014-09-01  8:29   ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-01 14:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-01 16:40       ` Will Deacon
2014-09-01 20:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:03           ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 12:15             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:05               ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 14:01                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 20:59                   ` jroedel at suse.de
2014-09-03  9:45                     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 15:03               ` Varun Sethi
2014-09-02 15:08                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 10:51   ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 11:03     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02 19:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 14:55   ` Varun Sethi
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] dma-mapping: detect and configure IOMMU in of_dma_configure Will Deacon
2014-09-01 14:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] arm: call iommu_init before of_platform_populate Will Deacon
2014-08-29 15:54 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] arm: dma-mapping: plumb our iommu mapping ops into arch_setup_dma_ops Will Deacon
2014-09-02  6:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] Introduce automatic DMA configuration for IOMMU masters Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02  8:31   ` Will Deacon
2014-09-02  8:48     ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02  8:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 10:42         ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 10:57           ` Will Deacon [this message]
2014-09-02 12:24             ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 21:50                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-02 12:22           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 12:30             ` Marek Szyprowski
2014-09-02 12:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-09-02 13:11                 ` Marek Szyprowski

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