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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 15:52:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140924145257.GY5182@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140924144541.GJ15842@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:45:41PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:30:23PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > I raised a while back with Will whether there's much point to having
> > this on ARM.  While it's useful for virtualisation, the majority of
> > 32-bit ARM doesn't run virtualised.
> 
> This has nothing to do with virtualisation. The main reason we use
> CNTVCT is to not require kernel binary differences when running the OS
> as host or guest. But it does _not_ mean that it is only used when
> running as a guest.
> 
> > So there's little point in having the VDSO on the majority of
> > platforms - it will just add additional unnecessary cycles slowing
> > down the system calls that the VDSO is designed to try to speed up.
> 
> A good reason for VDSO is to avoid a system call for gettimeofday when
> you can read the clocks source from user space. That's a significant
> improvement on CPUs like A7, A15.

I'm *not* arguing against having a VDSO to speed up that crap.  What
I'm trying to get to the bottom of - something which has been totally
lost sight of - is what the friggin effect of this stuff is on CPUs
*without* the architected timer.

Until I get an answer to what the measured effect is, I'm saying no to
VDSO on ARM, because - as seems to be the norm - the evaluation job is
only half done.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-24 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 14:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: change clocksource name if CP15 unavailable Nathan Lynch
2014-09-26  7:04   ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-26  9:26     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-26 11:34       ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-26 14:55     ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: enable counter access for 32-bit ARM Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: consolidate arch_timer_evtstrm_enable Nathan Lynch
2014-09-22 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation Will Deacon
2014-09-22 16:15   ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-22 18:56     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-22 22:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-23  0:28     ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-24 14:12       ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-24 14:32         ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-24 14:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-24 16:58             ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-24 18:58               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-24 14:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-24 14:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-09-24 15:04         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-24 15:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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