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From: dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com (Dmitry Torokhov)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] PM / Domains: Power on the PM domain right after attach completes
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:55:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141118175515.GD3003@dtor-ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411181234210.892-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:44:22PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> 
> > OK. Another question then: pm_runtime_get_noresume() does literally this:
> > 
> > 	atomic_inc(&dev->power.usage_count);
> > 
> > So who is responsible for actually waking up parent device and/or power
> > domain? Is it simply missing because we did not really have PM domains
> > before?
> 
> Ths bus is responsible for making sure that all the standard resources
> are available -- that is, all the resources that would be needed by a
> normal device on that bus.  Anything beyond that (such as
> special-purpose clocks) has to be set up by the driver.
> 
> Thus the bus would insure that the device was powered, its parent was
> resumed, and the usual clock inputs were enabled.  And of course, one
> mechanism for doing this is to runtime-resume the power domain.

This does not sound like anything bus-specific. Can we move powering on
the domain before probing into the driver core, similarly to the default
pin selection by pinctrl? I do not see why we want to have every
individual bus to implement this. I guess right now we can't because we
assign the domain to device in individual bus's probe function, but I do
not think this is proper place for that either: bus and pm domain are
orthogonal concepts IMO.

> 
> Often the bus doesn't have to do anything special to resume the
> device's parent.  This is because the device gets probed when it is
> registered, which happens when it is discovered, and the discovery is
> done by the parent's driver as part of its normal activity.  Since the
> parent has to be powered up to carry out this normal activity, nothing 
> more is needed.

I think this only true for buses that support discovery.

> 
> (Of course, devices can get probed at other times too, not just when
> they are discovered.  For example, a device might get probed when a
> driver module is loaded, and that can occur at any time.  So in general
> it might indeed be necessary for the bus to wake up the parent before
> calling the driver's probe routine.)
>

Thanks.

-- 
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-18 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 15:19 [PATCH] PM / Domains: Power on the PM domain right after attach completes Ulf Hansson
2014-11-17 15:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-17 16:54   ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-17 17:07     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-17 18:28 ` Kevin Hilman
2014-11-17 19:06   ` Alan Stern
2014-11-17 19:17     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-17 19:54       ` Alan Stern
2014-11-17 20:28         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-17 20:49           ` Alan Stern
2014-11-17 21:11             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-17 21:44               ` Alan Stern
2014-11-17 22:02                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-17 22:12                   ` Alan Stern
2014-11-17 22:17                     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-17 23:28                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-17 23:26                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-18  0:26                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18  2:16                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18 14:05                               ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-18 20:29                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-19  8:54                                   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-20  0:35                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-20 10:13                                       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-20 20:56                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-20 12:17                                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-20 13:01                                       ` Ulf Hansson
2014-11-20 15:06                                         ` Grygorii Strashko
2014-11-18 16:13                       ` Alan Stern
2014-11-18 17:18                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-18 17:44                           ` Alan Stern
2014-11-18 17:55                             ` Dmitry Torokhov [this message]
2014-11-18 20:14                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18 20:04                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-18 21:03                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18 21:17                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18 21:02                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-18 21:58                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-18 21:44                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2014-11-18 22:10                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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