From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Reading twd_base at run-time
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:12:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401121213.GC24899@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <551BDF69.4020205@free.fr>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 02:07:05PM +0200, Mason wrote:
> On 27/03/2015 21:53, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>
> >That's one scenario. Here's the scenario Mark is describing - one which
> >has real-world examples:
> >
> >Hardware engineer picks address A for rev A and sets CP15 to address A.
> >Everything works. Hardware engineer then picks address B for rev B, but
> >forgets to update CP15. It breaks.
>
> The hardware engineer told me that whatever arbitrary value is chosen
> for PERIPH_BASE is automatically exported through CP15 (which is how
> I thought this worked). So there is no "forgetting to update CP15"
> (for this platform, at least).
I'm sorry, it's not that I don't believe you, it's that ARM Ltd
employees already have evidence to the contary, and they should know
what's possible, they (as a company) designed the hardware and they're
the ones who have to deal with queries from _all_ the silicon vendors.
They get to know what the entire ARM ecosystem is doing, what vendors
get wrong, etc. They're in a far better position than just one silicon
vendor to know what's possible and what isn't.
So when Mark says something has been seen, I believe him, and that
trumps what hardware engineers at individual silicon vendors claim.
> >If it's in DT, it can be fixed. It should be there anyway as part of
> >the hardware description. DT is a description of the hardware.
>
> I thought DT was supposed to describe hardware that /cannot/ be probed
> or discovered at run-time?
And what about the cases where it is possible to probe the hardware on
some platforms but doing so crashes the kernel on others? I guess you
don't care about anything but your own platform - that's the kind of
message you're putting out...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-01 12:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-27 16:16 Reading twd_base at run-time Mason
2015-03-27 16:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-03-27 20:33 ` Mason
2015-03-27 20:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-04-01 12:07 ` Mason
2015-04-01 12:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-04-01 12:47 ` Mason
2015-04-01 12:28 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-04-01 12:47 ` Mason
2015-04-01 13:01 ` Mason
2015-04-01 13:14 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-04-01 14:39 ` Mason
2015-04-01 14:56 ` Marc Zyngier
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