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From: s.hauer@pengutronix.de (Sascha Hauer)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 11/15] thermal: thermal: Add support for hardware-tracked trip points
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 15:58:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150519135827.GF6325@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150518120944.GQ6325@pengutronix.de>

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 02:09:44PM +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> Hi Mikko,
> 
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:06:50PM +0300, Mikko Perttunen wrote:
> > > +	for (i = 0; i < tz->trips; i++) {
> > > +		int trip_low;
> > > +
> > > +		tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, i, &trip_temp);
> > > +		tz->ops->get_trip_hyst(tz, i, &hysteresis);
> > > +
> > > +		trip_low = trip_temp - hysteresis;
> > > +
> > > +		if (trip_low < temp && trip_low > low)
> > > +			low = trip_low;
> > > +
> > > +		if (trip_temp > temp && trip_temp < high)
> > > +			high = trip_temp;
> > > +	}
> > > +
> > > +	tz->prev_low_trip = low;
> > > +	tz->prev_high_trip = high;
> > > +
> > > +	dev_dbg(&tz->device, "new temperature boundaries: %d < x < %d\n",
> > > +			low, high);
> > > +
> > > +	tz->ops->set_trips(tz, low, high);
> > 
> > This should probably do something if set_trips returns an error
> > code; at least an error message, perhaps enable polling? I'm not
> > exactly sure what safety features the thermal framework has in
> > general if errors happen..
> 
> Currently a thermal zone has the passive_delay and polling_delay
> variables. If these are nonzero the thermal core will always poll. A
> purely interrupt driven thermal zone would set these values to zero.
> In this case the thermal core has no basis for polling, so we would
> have to make up polling intervals when set_trips fails. Another
> possibility would be to interpret the *_delay variables as 'when
> set_trips is available, do not poll. When something goes wrong, use
> *_delay as polling intervals'
> 
> > 
> > One interesting thing I noticed was that at least the bang-bang
> > governor only acts if the temperature is properly smaller than (trip
> > temp - hysteresis). So perhaps we should specify the non-tripping
> > range as [low, high)? Or we could change bang-bang.
> 
> I wonder how we can protect against such off-by-one errors anyway.
> Generally a hardware might operate on raw values rather than directly
> in temperature values in ?C. This means a driver for this must have
> celsius_to_raw and raw_to_celsius conversion functions. Now it can
> happen that due to rounding errors celsius_to_raw(Tcrit) returns a raw
> value that when converted back to celsius is different from the
> original value in ?C. This would mean the hardware triggers an interrupt
> for a trip point and the thermal core does not react because get_temp
> actually returns a different temperature than previously programmed as
> interrupt trigger. This way we would lose hot (or cold) events.

As a simple example we could imagine a 12bit adc which has:

u32 mcelsius_to_raw(int temp)
{
	return temp / 30;
}

int raw_to_mcelsius(u32 raw)
{
	return temp * 30;
}

Now if the thermal framework requests an interrupt at 77000mC we
would program a raw value of 77000 / 30 = 2566.666667, due to integer
rounding we would program 2566. Now when the interrupt is triggered with
this exact raw value we would convert it back to 2566 * 30 = 76980. The
thermal framework would realize that this is below the threshold, do
nothing and go back to sleep.
I am beginning to think that implementing interrupts like this is not a
good idea, at least I found no convenient way out of this situation.

Sascha

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13  8:52 [PATCH v3] Thermal hardware trip points and Mediatek thermal driver Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 01/15] thermal: consistently use int for temperatures Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:12   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-20  8:34     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  8:42       ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 02/15] thermal: trivial: fix typo in comment Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 03/15] thermal: remove useless call to thermal_zone_device_set_polling Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 04/15] thermal: Use IS_ENABLED instead of #ifdef Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 05/15] thermal: Add comment explaining test for critical temperature Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:18   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 06/15] thermal: inline only once used function Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:28   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 07/15] thermal: streamline get_trend callbacks Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 08/15] thermal: Allow sensor ops to fail with -ENOSYS Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 09/15] thermal: of: always set sensor related callbacks Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 10/15] thermal: Make struct thermal_zone_device_ops const Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 11/15] thermal: thermal: Add support for hardware-tracked trip points Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18  9:06   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-18 12:09     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18 18:44       ` Brian Norris
2015-05-18 19:13         ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-18 20:28           ` Brian Norris
2015-05-19 12:43             ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-19 14:05         ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-19 13:58       ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2015-05-19 14:05         ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-20 13:21           ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 12/15] thermal: of: implement .set_trips for device tree thermal zones Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18  9:09   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 13/15] dt-bindings: thermal: Add binding document for Mediatek thermal controller Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 14/15] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-05-14  9:52   ` Paul Bolle
     [not found]     ` <CABicQ-XxXbMMnYyFAst=Xk1HMOXc6N1-J1bvyutMFY_=iNd0fg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-15  6:12       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 15/15] ARM64: dts: mt8173: Add thermal/auxadc device nodes Sascha Hauer

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