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From: s.hauer@pengutronix.de (Sascha Hauer)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 11/15] thermal: thermal: Add support for hardware-tracked trip points
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 16:05:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150519140546.GE26575@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150518184433.GS11598@ld-irv-0074>

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:44:33AM -0700, Brian Norris wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 02:09:44PM +0200, Sascha Hauer wrote:
> > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:06:50PM +0300, Mikko Perttunen wrote:
> > > One interesting thing I noticed was that at least the bang-bang
> > > governor only acts if the temperature is properly smaller than (trip
> > > temp - hysteresis). So perhaps we should specify the non-tripping
> > > range as [low, high)? Or we could change bang-bang.
> > 
> > I wonder how we can protect against such off-by-one errors anyway.
> > Generally a hardware might operate on raw values rather than directly
> > in temperature values in ?C. This means a driver for this must have
> > celsius_to_raw and raw_to_celsius conversion functions. Now it can
> > happen that due to rounding errors celsius_to_raw(Tcrit) returns a raw
> > value that when converted back to celsius is different from the
> > original value in ?C. This would mean the hardware triggers an interrupt
> > for a trip point and the thermal core does not react because get_temp
> > actually returns a different temperature than previously programmed as
> > interrupt trigger. This way we would lose hot (or cold) events.
> 
> This also highlights another fact: there's a race between interrupt
> generation and temperature reading (->get_temp()). I would expect any
> hardware interrupt thermal sensor would also have a latched temperature
> reading to correspond with it, and there would be no guarantee that this
> latched temperature will match the polled reading seen once you reach
> thermal_zone_device_update(). So a hardware driver might report a
> thermal update, but the temperature reported to the core won't
> necessarily match what interrupt was meant for.
> 
> I have a patch that adds a thermal_zone_device_update_temp() API, so
> drivers can report the temperature along with the interrupt
> notification. (Such a patch also helps so that the driver can choose to
> round down on cold events and up on hot events, resolving your rounding
> issue too.)

Could you send me that patch? Thinking about it this might indeed work.
The only thing that a driver needs to make sure then is that it actually
at least one time reports a temperature beyond the currently programmed
thresholds. With the patch you describe a driver could simply do that by
ignoring the current ADC values and simply reporting the previously
desired values.

Sascha

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-19 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13  8:52 [PATCH v3] Thermal hardware trip points and Mediatek thermal driver Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 01/15] thermal: consistently use int for temperatures Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:12   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-20  8:34     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  8:42       ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 02/15] thermal: trivial: fix typo in comment Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 03/15] thermal: remove useless call to thermal_zone_device_set_polling Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 04/15] thermal: Use IS_ENABLED instead of #ifdef Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 05/15] thermal: Add comment explaining test for critical temperature Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:18   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 06/15] thermal: inline only once used function Sascha Hauer
2015-05-20  7:28   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 07/15] thermal: streamline get_trend callbacks Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 08/15] thermal: Allow sensor ops to fail with -ENOSYS Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 09/15] thermal: of: always set sensor related callbacks Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 10/15] thermal: Make struct thermal_zone_device_ops const Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 11/15] thermal: thermal: Add support for hardware-tracked trip points Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18  9:06   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-18 12:09     ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18 18:44       ` Brian Norris
2015-05-18 19:13         ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-18 20:28           ` Brian Norris
2015-05-19 12:43             ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-19 14:05         ` Sascha Hauer [this message]
2015-05-19 13:58       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-19 14:05         ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-20 13:21           ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 12/15] thermal: of: implement .set_trips for device tree thermal zones Sascha Hauer
2015-05-18  9:09   ` Mikko Perttunen
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 13/15] dt-bindings: thermal: Add binding document for Mediatek thermal controller Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 14/15] thermal: Add Mediatek thermal controller support Sascha Hauer
2015-05-14  9:52   ` Paul Bolle
     [not found]     ` <CABicQ-XxXbMMnYyFAst=Xk1HMOXc6N1-J1bvyutMFY_=iNd0fg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-05-15  6:12       ` Sascha Hauer
2015-05-13  8:52 ` [PATCH 15/15] ARM64: dts: mt8173: Add thermal/auxadc device nodes Sascha Hauer

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