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From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 18/19] arm64: kdump: update a kernel doc
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:10:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119121014.GF25024@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <569DCA19.4080704@linaro.org>

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 02:31:05PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On 01/18/2016 08:29 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 07:26:04PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>On 01/16/2016 05:16 AM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>>On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 07:18:38PM +0000, Geoff Levand wrote:
> >>>>From: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
> >>>>
> >>>>This patch adds arch specific descriptions about kdump usage on arm64
> >>>>to kdump.txt.
> >>>>
> >>>>Signed-off-by: AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>
> >>>>---
> >>>>  Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>>
> >>>>diff --git a/Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt b/Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt
> >>>>index bc4bd5a..36cf978 100644
> >>>>--- a/Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt
> >>>>+++ b/Documentation/kdump/kdump.txt
> >>>>@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@ memory image to a dump file on the local disk, or across the network to
> >>>>  a remote system.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Kdump and kexec are currently supported on the x86, x86_64, ppc64, ia64,
> >>>>-s390x and arm architectures.
> >>>>+s390x, arm and arm64 architectures.
> >>>>
> >>>>  When the system kernel boots, it reserves a small section of memory for
> >>>>  the dump-capture kernel. This ensures that ongoing Direct Memory Access
> >>>>@@ -249,6 +249,20 @@ Dump-capture kernel config options (Arch Dependent, arm)
> >>>>
> >>>>      AUTO_ZRELADDR=y
> >>>>
> >>>>+Dump-capture kernel config options (Arch Dependent, arm64)
> >>>>+----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>+
> >>>>+1) The maximum memory size on the dump-capture kernel must be limited by
> >>>>+   specifying:
> >>>>+
> >>>>+   mem=X[MG]
> >>>>+
> >>>>+   where X should be less than or equal to the size in "crashkernel="
> >>>>+   boot parameter. Kexec-tools will automatically add this.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>This is extremely fragile, and will trivially fail when the kernel can
> >>>be loaded anywhere (see [1]).
> >>
> >>As I said before, this restriction also exists on arm, but I understand
> >>that recent Ard's patches break it.
> >>
> >>>We must explicitly describe the set of regions the crash kernel may use
> >>>(i.e. we need base and size). NAK in the absence of that.
> >>
> >>There seem to exist several approaches:
> >>(a) use a device-tree property, "linux,usable-memory", in addition to "reg"
> >
> >I'm not opposed to the idea of a DT property, though I think that should
> >live under /chosen.
> 
> In fact, powerpc uses another property, "linux,crashkernel-base(& size)",
> under /chosen in order for the *1st kernel* to export info about a memory
> region for the 2nd(crash dump) kernel to user apps (kexec-tools).

Do you mean that said property is provided _to_ the 1st kernel, or
provided _by_ the first kernel?

> >I see that "linux,usable-memory" exists already, though I'm confused as
> >to exactly what it is for as there is no documentation (neither in the
> >kernel nor in ePAPR).
> 
> For example,
>   memory at 0x80000000 {
>     reg = <0x0 0x80000000 0x0 0x80000000>;
>     linux,usable-memory = <0x0 0x8c000000 0x0 0x4000000>;
>   }
> There exists 2GB memory available on the system, but the last 64MB can be
> used as a system ram. See early_init_dt_scan_memory() in fdt.c.

Sure, except that's the implementation rather than the intended
semantics (which are not defined).

> >It's also painful to alter multiple memory nodes
> >to use that, and I can see that going wrong.
> 
> Yeah, I implemented this feature in my old versions experimentally,
> but didn't like it as we had to touch all the memory nodes.
> 
> >>     under "memory" node
> >>(b) use a kernel's early parameter, "memmap=nn[@#$]ss"
> >
> >I'm not too keen on this, as I think it's fragile, and logically
> >somewhat distinct from what mem= is for (a best effort testing tool).
> 
> I'm not sure whether it is fragile, and contrary to x86, as Dave
> described, I think we will only need a single memmap= on arm64 as
> efi's mem map table is accessible even on the crash kernel.

I just realised I misread this as "mem=", apologies.

It looks like memmap= to force a specific region of memory to be used
may work.

I'd still err on the side of preferring an explicit property in the DT.

> >>Power PC takes (a), while this does not work on efi-started kernel
> >>because dtb has no "memory" nodes under efi.
> >
> >A property under /chosen would work for EFI too.
> >
> >>X86 takes (b). If we take this, we will need to overwrite a weak
> >>early_init_dt_add_memory().
> >>(I thought that this approach was not smart as we have three different
> >>ways to specify memory regions, dtb, efi and this kernel parameter.)
> >
> >I'm not sure that's a big problem. We may be able to make this generic,
> >also.
> >
> >We don't necessarily need a weak add memory function if we can guarantee
> >nothing gets memblock_alloc'd before we carve it out.
> >
> >Something like the nomap stuff Ard put together might be useful here.
> 
> I'm afraid it doesn't work.
> It doesn't matter whether it is linearly mapped or not. We should prevent
> any part of memory regions used by the 1st kernel from being reclaimed
> by memblock_alloc() and others.

Are you certain that nomap memory can be allocated? That sounds like a
major bug.

Nomap memory should act like reserved memory with the additional
property that the kernel must not map it implicitly.

> Or do you mean we can introduce another memblock flag?

That wasn't what I meant, but that would be a potential solution.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 19:18 [PATCH 00/19] arm64 kexec kernel patches v13 Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] arm64: Add back cpu_reset routines Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] arm64: kernel: Include _AC definition in page.h Geoff Levand
2016-01-18 10:05   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] arm64: Convert hcalls to use HVC immediate value Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] arm64: Fold proc-macros.S into assembler.h Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] Revert "arm64: remove dead code" Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:55   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 21:18     ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] arm64: Add new hcall HVC_CALL_FUNC Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] arm64: Add new asm macro copy_page Geoff Levand
2016-01-20 14:01   ` James Morse
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] Revert "arm64: mm: remove unused cpu_set_idmap_tcr_t0sz function" Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 04/19] arm64: Cleanup SCTLR flags Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 20:07   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 10:12     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-19 11:59       ` Dave Martin
2016-01-25 15:09   ` James Morse
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] arm64: kvm: allows kvm cpu hotplug Geoff Levand
2016-01-26 17:42   ` James Morse
2016-01-27  7:37     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] arm64/kexec: Add pr_debug output Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] arm64: kdump: implement machine_crash_shutdown() Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] arm64/kexec: Add core kexec support Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] arm64: kdump: enable kdump in the arm64 defconfig Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] arm64: kdump: update a kernel doc Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 20:16   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 10:26     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-18 11:29       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19  5:31         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19 12:10           ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-01-20  4:34             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19  1:43       ` Dave Young
2016-01-19  1:50         ` Dave Young
2016-01-19  5:35         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19 12:28           ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 12:51             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:45               ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 14:01                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20  2:49                   ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  6:07                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20  6:38                       ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  7:00                         ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  8:01                           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20  8:26                             ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:54                         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  2:57                           ` Dave Young
2016-01-21  3:03                           ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:49                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  6:53                         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-21 12:02                           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-22  6:23                             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-22 11:13                               ` Mark Rutland
2016-02-02  5:18                                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-25  3:19                               ` Dave Young
2016-01-25  4:23                                 ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:28                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  2:54                       ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  5:25                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20 12:02                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 12:36                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 14:59                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-20 15:04                           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  5:43                           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-21 13:02                             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 12:17         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:52           ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 14:05             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20  2:54               ` Dave Young
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] arm64: kdump: reserve memory for crash dump kernel Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] arm64: kdump: add kdump support Geoff Levand
2016-01-21 14:17   ` James Morse
2016-01-22  4:50     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] arm64: kdump: relax BUG_ON() if more than one cpus are still active Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] arm64/kexec: Enable kexec in the arm64 defconfig Geoff Levand
2016-01-19 12:32 ` [PATCH 00/19] arm64 kexec kernel patches v13 Dave Young
2016-01-20  0:15   ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-20  2:56     ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 21:15       ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-21 12:11       ` Mark Rutland
     [not found] ` <c7575f853ccc491bb0212e025aab1cc9@NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com>
2016-03-01 17:54   ` Azriel Samson
2016-03-02  1:17     ` Geoff Levand
2016-03-02  1:38       ` Will Deacon
2016-03-02  2:28         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-03-02  8:07       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-02 12:33     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-02 16:51       ` Azriel Samson

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