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From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 18/19] arm64: kdump: update a kernel doc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 13:02:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160121130217.GF2581@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56A06FF3.8050706@linaro.org>

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 02:43:15PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On 01/20/2016 11:59 PM, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >On 20 January 2016 at 13:36, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> >>Ard, Ganapatrao, the below is something we need to consider for the
> >>combination of the NUMA & kexec approaches. It only becomes a problem
> >>if/when we preserve DT memory nodes in the presence of EFI, though it
> >>would be nice to not box ourselves into a corner.
> >>
> >>On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:02:58PM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 02:25:07PM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>>>On 01/19/2016 11:01 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>>>>For NUMA topology in !ACPI kernels, we might need to also retain and
> >>>>>parse memory nodes, but only for toplogy information. The kernel would
> >>>>>still only use memory as described by the EFI memory map.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>There's a horrible edge case I've spotted if performing a chain of
> >>>>>cross-endian kexecs: LE -> BE -> LE, as the BE kernel would have to
> >>>>>respect the EFI memory map so as to avoid corrupting it for the
> >>>>>subsequent LE kernel. Other than this I believe everything should just
> >>>>>work.
> >>>>
> >>>>BE kernel doesn't support UEFI yet and cannot access UEFI memmap table. So,
> >>>>for LE -> BE, we don't use a dtb generated from /sys/firmware/fdt (or /proc/device-tree)
> >>>>(as in the case of LE -> LE) and require users to provide a dtb file explicitly.
> >>>
> >>>As I mentioned above, the problem exists when memory nodes also exist
> >>>(for describing NUMA topology). In that case the BE kernel would try to
> >>>use the information from the memory nodes.
> >>>
> >>>>For BE -> LE, BE kernel doesn't know wther UEFI memmap table is available or not
> >>>>and so use the same (explicitly-provided) dtb (as LE -> LE in !UEFI)
> >>>
> >>>See above. The problem I imagine is:
> >>>
> >>>LE kernel - uses EFI mmap, takes NUMA information from DT memory nodes
> >>>
> >>>     v       kexec
> >>>
> >>>BE kernel - uses DT memory nodes
> >>>           - clobbers EFI runtime regions as it sees them as available
> >>>
> >>>     v       kexec
> >>>
> >>>LE kernel - uses EFI mmap, takes NUMA information from DT memory nodes
> >>>           - tries to call EFI runtime services, and explodes.
> >>
> >>I'm not really sure what the best approach is here, but I thought that
> >>it would be good to raise awareness of the edge-case.
> >>
> >
> >I think we should simply allow the BE kernel to deal with a UEFI
> >memory map. It only involves a bit of byte swapping (which I already
> >implemented at some point)
> 
> Just from my curiosity,
> will runtime services be also available on BE kernel with LE uefi?

It may be possible to implement that (I recall that Ard had a go), but
that's far more complicated than simply supporting the EFI memory map,
as you need separate (endian-swapped) page tables and other data
structures, lose the ability to handle exceptions, etc.

All that's suggested above is supporting the memory map.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-21 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 19:18 [PATCH 00/19] arm64 kexec kernel patches v13 Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 02/19] arm64: kernel: Include _AC definition in page.h Geoff Levand
2016-01-18 10:05   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 08/19] Revert "arm64: mm: remove unused cpu_set_idmap_tcr_t0sz function" Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 01/19] arm64: Fold proc-macros.S into assembler.h Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 04/19] arm64: Cleanup SCTLR flags Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 20:07   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 10:12     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-01-19 11:59       ` Dave Martin
2016-01-25 15:09   ` James Morse
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 07/19] arm64: Add back cpu_reset routines Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 03/19] arm64: Add new asm macro copy_page Geoff Levand
2016-01-20 14:01   ` James Morse
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 09/19] Revert "arm64: remove dead code" Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:55   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 21:18     ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 06/19] arm64: Add new hcall HVC_CALL_FUNC Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 05/19] arm64: Convert hcalls to use HVC immediate value Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 18/19] arm64: kdump: update a kernel doc Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 20:16   ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-18 10:26     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-18 11:29       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19  5:31         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19 12:10           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20  4:34             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19  1:43       ` Dave Young
2016-01-19  1:50         ` Dave Young
2016-01-19  5:35         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-19 12:28           ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 12:51             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:45               ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 14:01                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20  2:49                   ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  6:07                     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20  6:38                       ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  7:00                         ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  8:01                           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20  8:26                             ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:54                         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  2:57                           ` Dave Young
2016-01-21  3:03                           ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:49                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  6:53                         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-21 12:02                           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-22  6:23                             ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-22 11:13                               ` Mark Rutland
2016-02-02  5:18                                 ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-25  3:19                               ` Dave Young
2016-01-25  4:23                                 ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 11:28                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  2:54                       ` Dave Young
2016-01-20  5:25                   ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-20 12:02                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 12:36                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20 14:59                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-01-20 15:04                           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-21  5:43                           ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-21 13:02                             ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-01-19 12:17         ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-19 13:52           ` Dave Young
2016-01-19 14:05             ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-20  2:54               ` Dave Young
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 11/19] arm64/kexec: Add core kexec support Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 12/19] arm64/kexec: Enable kexec in the arm64 defconfig Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 17/19] arm64: kdump: enable kdump " Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 14/19] arm64: kdump: reserve memory for crash dump kernel Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 15/19] arm64: kdump: implement machine_crash_shutdown() Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 19/19] arm64: kdump: relax BUG_ON() if more than one cpus are still active Geoff Levand
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 10/19] arm64: kvm: allows kvm cpu hotplug Geoff Levand
2016-01-26 17:42   ` James Morse
2016-01-27  7:37     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 16/19] arm64: kdump: add kdump support Geoff Levand
2016-01-21 14:17   ` James Morse
2016-01-22  4:50     ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-01-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 13/19] arm64/kexec: Add pr_debug output Geoff Levand
2016-01-19 12:32 ` [PATCH 00/19] arm64 kexec kernel patches v13 Dave Young
2016-01-20  0:15   ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-20  2:56     ` Dave Young
2016-01-20 21:15       ` Geoff Levand
2016-01-21 12:11       ` Mark Rutland
     [not found] ` <c7575f853ccc491bb0212e025aab1cc9@NASANEXM01H.na.qualcomm.com>
2016-03-01 17:54   ` Azriel Samson
2016-03-02  1:17     ` Geoff Levand
2016-03-02  1:38       ` Will Deacon
2016-03-02  2:28         ` AKASHI Takahiro
2016-03-02  8:07       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-02 12:33     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-02 16:51       ` Azriel Samson

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