From: vinod.koul@intel.com (Vinod Koul)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [linux-sunxi] Re: [PATCH] dma: sun4i: expose block size and wait cycle configuration to DMA users
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:35:38 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160308100538.GO11154@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56DE9077.3020905@redhat.com>
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 09:42:31AM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> <wild speculation>
>
> I see 2 possible reasons why waiting till checking for drq can help:
>
> 1) A lot of devices have an internal fifo hooked up to a single mmio data
> register which gets read using the general purpose dma-engine, it allows
> this fifo to fill, and thus do burst transfers
> (We've seen similar issues with the scanout engine for the display which
> has its own dma engine, and doing larger transfers helps a lot).
>
> 2) Physical memory on the sunxi SoCs is (often) divided into banks
> with a shared data / address bus doing bank-switches is expensive, so
> this wait cycles may introduce latency which allows a user of another
> bank to complete its RAM accesses before the dma engine forces a
> bank switch, which ends up avoiding a lot of (interleaved) bank switches
> while both try to access a different banj and thus waiting makes things
> (much) faster in the end (again a known problem with the display
> scanout engine).
>
> </wild speculation>
>
> Note the differences these kinda tweaks make can be quite dramatic,
> when using a 1920x1080p60 hdmi output on the A10 SoC with a 16 bit
> memory bus (real world worst case scenario), the memory bandwidth
> left for userspace processes (measured through memset) almost doubles
> from 48 MB/s to 85 MB/s, source:
> http://ssvb.github.io/2014/11/11/revisiting-fullhd-x11-desktop-performance-of-the-allwinner-a10.html
>
> TL;DR: Waiting before starting DMA allows for doing larger burst
> transfers which ends up making things more efficient.
>
> Given this, I really expect there to be other dma-engines which
> have some option to wait a bit before starting/unpausing a transfer
> instead of starting it as soon as (more) data is available, so I think
> this would make a good addition to dma_slave_config.
I tend to agree but before we do that I would like this hypothesis to be
confirmed :)
--
~Vinod
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-07 9:59 [PATCH] dma: sun4i: expose block size and wait cycle configuration to DMA users Boris Brezillon
2016-03-07 14:54 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-07 15:08 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-07 20:30 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-03-08 2:55 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-08 2:59 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-08 7:51 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-03-08 8:42 ` [linux-sunxi] " Hans de Goede
2016-03-08 10:05 ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2016-03-09 10:58 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-03-08 8:46 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-08 9:10 ` [linux-sunxi] " Priit Laes
2016-03-08 10:04 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-09 10:08 ` [linux-sunxi] " LABBE Corentin
2016-03-08 9:59 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-09 10:14 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-11 6:24 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11 9:40 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-11 10:06 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11 10:26 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-11 11:21 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-09 11:06 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-11 6:26 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11 9:45 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-11 10:09 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-11 10:55 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-03-11 11:18 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-14 11:46 ` Maxime Ripard
2016-03-16 3:22 ` Vinod Koul
2016-03-07 15:30 ` [linux-sunxi] " Priit Laes
2016-03-07 15:47 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-07 17:15 ` Emilio López
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