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From: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Paul E. McKenney)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:54:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160318235445.GG4287@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56EBCD09.2000400@linaro.org>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 09:40:25AM +0000, Daniel Thompson wrote:
> On 18/03/16 00:33, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 08:17:59PM -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> >>On 3/17/2016 6:55 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >>>The RCU stall-warn stack traces can be ugly, agreed.
> >>>
> >>>That said, RCU used to use NMI-based stack traces, but switched to the
> >>>current scheme due to the NMIs having the unfortunate habit of locking
> >>>things up, which IIRC often meant no stack traces at all.  If I recall
> >>>correctly, one of the problems was self-deadlock in printk().
> >>
> >>Steven Rostedt enabled the per_cpu printk func support in June 2014, and
> >>the nmi_backtrace code uses it to just capture printk output to percpu
> >>buffers, so I think it's going to be a lot more robust than earlier attempts.
> >
> >That would be a very good thing, give or take the "I think" qualifier.
> >And assuming that the target CPU is healthy enough to find its way back
> >to some place that can dump the per-CPU printk buffer.  I might well
> >be overly paranoid, but I have to suspect that the probability of that
> >buffer getting dumped is reduced greatly on a CPU that isn't healthy
> >enough to respond to RCU, though.
> 
> The target CPU doesn't dump the buffer. It "just" fields the NMI,
> stores the backtrace and sets a flag.
> 
> The buffer is dumped to console by the requesting CPU, either when
> all backtraces have come back or when a timeout is reached.

That does sound a bit more robust, good!

> >But it seems like enabling the experiment might be useful.
> >
> >"Try enabling the NMI version.  If that doesn't get you your RCU CPU
> >stall warning stack trace, try the remote-print variant."
> >
> >Or I suppose we could just do both in succession, just in case their
> >console was a serial port.  ;-)
> 
> I guess both might be needed but only when the target CPU is dead
> enough to fail to respond to NMI. In principle, we could exploit the
> timeout in the NMI backtrace logic and only issue the missing
> backtraces.

It would be really nice if I could call one function that used the
best strategy for getting information (including stack trace) about a
specified CPU.  Ditto for getting information about a specified task,
which might be running or might be preempted at the time.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-18 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20160307204317.GR6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
2016-03-16 17:02 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 17:02   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 19:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:31       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 22:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:41           ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-17 23:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 22:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-17 23:09         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-17 23:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-18  0:28           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18  0:17         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-18  0:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-03-18  9:40             ` Daniel Thompson
2016-03-18 23:54               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-03-16 17:02   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 17:02   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-03-16 18:46     ` kbuild test robot
2016-03-21 15:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 15:46       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 15:42     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 16:15       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 16:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 17:12           ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-21 17:17             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 16:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-21 21:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-22 17:19       ` [PATCH v3 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19         ` [PATCH v3 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19         ` [PATCH v3 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:19         ` [PATCH v3 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf
2016-03-22 17:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-22 22:28             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-22 22:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-22 22:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-23  0:50               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-03-23  7:53                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-30 17:16                 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] improvements to the nmi_backtrace code Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                   ` [PATCH v4 1/4] nmi_backtrace: add more trigger_*_cpu_backtrace() methods Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                   ` [PATCH v4 2/4] nmi_backtrace: do a local dump_stack() instead of a self-NMI Chris Metcalf
2016-03-30 17:16                   ` [PATCH v4 4/4] nmi_backtrace: generate one-line reports for idle cpus Chris Metcalf

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