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From: linux@roeck-us.net (Guenter Roeck)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC] Watchdog: sbsa_gwdt: Enhance timeout range
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 09:43:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160505164300.GA16914@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <572A2099.4070901@codeaurora.org>

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:17:29AM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote:
> Pratyush Anand wrote:
> >Its unique to SBSA because you have very little timeout here. kexec-tools
> >upstream does not have any mechanism to handle watchdog timeout. Lets say even
> >if we implement a framework there, the best it can do is to ping the watchdog
> >again.
> 
> Ok, so it's more accurate to say that kexec has a minimum watchdog timeout
> requirement.  What happens if the system admin sets the timeout to 5 seconds
> arbitrarily?  The system will reset during kexec, no matter which hardware
> is used.
> 
> This still sounds like a band-aid to me.  We're just assuming that we need a
> timeout of at least 20 seconds to support kexec.  Frankly, this still sounds
> like a problem the kexec developers needs to acknowledge and deal with.
> 
> Still I'm okay with a patch that extends the timeout by programming WCV, but
> it has to be commented as a hack specifically to support kexec because the
> timeout might be too short.  Then Wim can decide whether he supports such
> changes.
> 
I don't even understand how kexec-tools is involved in the first place.
kexec-tools sounds like user space, which should execute _after_ the kernel
and its modules are loaded (assuming modules are loaded from initramfs).
If kexec-tools can somehow ping the watchdog (presumably by writing into
the HW directly), I don't understand why it doesn't simply load the watchdog
driver instead and let the watchdog core handle the heartbeats.

I am really missing something here. How can kexec-tools do anything before
the kernel is loaded ?

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-05 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-03  8:20 [PATCH RFC] Watchdog: sbsa_gwdt: Enhance timeout range Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03 12:12 ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-03 13:24   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03 13:47     ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-03 14:17       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03 14:46         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-03 15:04           ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-03 13:29 ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-03 14:38   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03 15:07     ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-03 15:51       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-03 17:16         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-04 14:14           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-04 14:21             ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-04 15:59               ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-04 16:17                 ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-05 16:43                   ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2016-05-05 18:20                     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-05-05 18:22                       ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-05 23:36                         ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-05 23:38                           ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-05 23:45                             ` Timur Tabi
2016-05-06  0:18                               ` Guenter Roeck
2016-05-05 23:51                             ` Guenter Roeck

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