From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/7] arm64: Privileged Access Never using TTBR0_EL1 switching
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:02:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160815110253.GH13262@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu87t-AnDKvtk699CpEfkEPgB=6DE-8EhBCMMnczemVQ4Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:56:58PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 15 August 2016 at 12:52, Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:43:31PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> >> But, how about we store the reserved ASID in TTBR1_EL1 instead, and
> >> switch TCR_EL1.A1 and TCR_EL1.EPD0 in a single write? That way, we can
> >> switch ASIDs and disable table walks atomically (I hope), and we
> >> wouldn't need to change TTBR0_EL1 at all.
> >
> > I did this before for AArch32 + LPAE (patches on the list sometime last
> > year I think). But the idea was nak'ed by the ARM architects. The
> > TCR_EL1.A1 can be cached somewhere in the TLB state machine, so you need
> > TLBI (IOW, toggling A1 does not guarantee an ASID switch).
> >
>
> But how is TTBR0_EL1 any different? The ARM ARM equally mentions that
> any of its field can be cached in a TLB, so by that reasoning, setting
> a new ASID in TTBR0_EL1 would also require TLB maintenance.
The underlying issue is that "cached in a TLB" doesn't distinguish between
"cached in a TLB *entry*" and "cached by the logic used to form TLB entries"
(i.e. the table walker).
That's where we need to seek clarification from the architects, because
existing microarchitectures do utilise both of these types of caching.
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-15 11:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-12 15:27 [PATCH 0/7] arm64: Privileged Access Never using TTBR0_EL1 switching Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 1/7] arm64: Factor out PAN enabling/disabling into separate uaccess_* macros Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 2/7] arm64: Factor out TTBR0_EL1 setting into a specific asm macro Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 3/7] arm64: Introduce uaccess_{disable, enable} functionality based on TTBR0_EL1 Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 4/7] arm64: Disable TTBR0_EL1 during normal kernel execution Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 11:18 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-15 16:39 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 5/7] arm64: Handle faults caused by inadvertent user access with PAN enabled Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 6/7] arm64: xen: Enable user access before a privcmd hvc call Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 9:58 ` Julien Grall
2016-08-15 18:00 ` Stefano Stabellini
2016-08-12 15:27 ` [PATCH 7/7] arm64: Enable CONFIG_ARM64_TTBR0_PAN Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 18:04 ` [PATCH 0/7] arm64: Privileged Access Never using TTBR0_EL1 switching Kees Cook
2016-08-12 18:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-13 9:13 ` [kernel-hardening] " Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 9:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 9:58 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-15 10:02 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 10:06 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-15 10:10 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-15 10:15 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-15 10:21 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-15 10:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 10:30 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-15 10:31 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 10:37 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-15 10:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 10:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 10:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 11:02 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-08-15 16:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 19:04 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-08-15 11:00 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-15 10:30 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-15 10:08 ` Will Deacon
2016-08-26 15:39 ` David Brown
2016-08-26 17:24 ` Catalin Marinas
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