From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: System/uncore PMUs and unit aggregation
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 17:18:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161123171846.GP24624@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161118111017.GA22798@hardcore>
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:10:17PM +0100, Jan Glauber wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 06:17:08PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Speaking to Mark earlier today, we came up with the following rough rules
> > for drivers that present multiple hardware units as a single PMU:
> >
> > 1. If the units share some part of the programming interface (e.g. control
> > registers or interrupts), then they must be handled by the same PMU.
> > Otherwise, they should be treated independently as separate PMU
> > instances.
>
> Can you elaborate why they should be treated independent in the later
> case? What is the problem with going through a list and writing the
> control register per unit?
For one thing, event groups spanning those units cannot be scheduled
atomically (some events would be counting while others were not),
violating group semantics.
> > 3. Summing the counters across units is only permitted if the units
> > can all be started and stopped atomically. Otherwise, the counters
> > should be exposed individually. It's up to the driver author to
> > decide what makes sense to sum.
>
> Do you mean started/stopped atomically across units?
Yes. If some units are counting while others are not, values can be
skewed, and therefore potentially misleading.
> > For Cavium ThunderX, it's not clear whether or not the individual units
> > could be expressed as separate PMUs, or whether they're caught by one of
> > the rules above. The Qualcomm L2 looks like it's doing the right thing
> > and we can't quite work out what the Hisilicon Hip0x topology looks like,
> > since the interaction with djtag is confusing.
>
> On Cavium ThunderX the current patches add 4 PMU types, which unfortunately
> are all handled different. The L2C-TAD and OCX-TLK have control
> registers per unit. The LMC and L2C-CBC don't have control registers,
> (free-running counters). So rule 1 might be too restrictive.
>
> I've not looked into groups, would these allow to merge counters from
> different PMUs in the kernel?
No; event groups are strictly single PMU, with the sole exception that
software events may be placed inside a hardware event group (since
there's no start/stop logic required for SW events).
Thanks,
Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-23 17:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-17 18:17 System/uncore PMUs and unit aggregation Will Deacon
2016-11-18 3:16 ` Leeder, Neil
2017-01-10 18:54 ` Will Deacon
2017-01-11 0:46 ` Leeder, Neil
2016-11-18 8:15 ` Anurup M
2017-01-10 18:56 ` Will Deacon
2016-11-18 9:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-18 16:25 ` Liang, Kan
2016-11-18 11:10 ` Jan Glauber
2016-11-23 17:18 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-03-16 11:08 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2017-03-20 12:37 ` Will Deacon
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