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From: christoffer.dall@linaro.org (Christoffer Dall)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] ARM: hyp-stub: improve ABI
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 14:26:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170109132636.GH4348@cbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170109122639.GX14217@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 12:26:39PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 10:51:49AM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > Hi Russell,
> > 
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 06:57:18PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > What's also coming clear is that there's very few people who understand
> > > all the interactions here, and the whole thing seems to be an undocumented
> > > mess.  
> > 
> > I think the hyp stub has just served a very limited purpose so far, and
> > therefore is a somewhat immature implementation.  Now we've discovered a
> > need to clean it up, and we're all for that.  Again, I don't think the
> > problem is any larger than that, we just need to fix it, and it seems to
> > me everyone is willing to work on that.
> 
> What I want to see is some documentation of the hyp-stub, so that there
> can be some element of confidence that changes there are properly
> coordinated.  As I said in a follow up email:
> 
> | Either we need more people to have an understanding (so if one of them
> | gets run over by a bus, we're not left floundering around) or we need
> | it to be documented - even if it's just a simple comment "the ABI in
> | this file is shared with XYZ, if you change the ABI here, also update
> | XYZ too."
> 
> > Marc even offered to work on your suggestion to support the general
> > hyp ABI commands in KVM.
> 
> ... which is pointless, because it's a duplication of the effort I've
> already put in.  My patches already do the:
> 
> #define HVC_GET_VECTORS 0
> #define HVC_SET_VECTORS 1
> #define HVC_SOFT_RESTART 2
> 
> thing which ARM64 does, passing the arguments in via the appropriate
> registers.  However, such a change is a major revision of hyp-stub's
> ABI, which completely changes the way it works.

Sorry, I'm afraid I might have been unclear.  What I meant with "general
hyp ABI commands in KVM" was, that if there's a need for KVM to support
the operations (using a unified and documented ABI) that the hyp stub
supports, then we could add that in KVM as well.  I thought your patches
added the functionality for the hyp stub, and Marc would add whichever
remaining pieces in the KVM side.


[...]

> 
> Longer term, I'd like to see the existing hypervisor documentation in
> Documentation/virtual/kvm/hypercalls.txt updated with the ARM details.
> According to that document, KVM effectively only exists on PPC and x86
> at the present time...
> 

I'm afraid I don't think this is right place to document this behavior.

There's a difference between an internal ABI between code running in two
CPU modes but both part of the same kernel, and a hypervisor running
a guest OS on top.

I believe that Documentation/virtual/kvm/hypercalls.txt documents the
latter case (i.e. guest hypercalls supported by the KVM host
hypervisor), not the former case, and these things should not be
combined.

I would suggest adding something like
Documentation/virtual/kvm/arm/hyp-abi.txt instead.

-Christoffer

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-09 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-09 19:49 [PATCH] ARM: soft-reboot into same mode that we entered the kernel Russell King
2016-12-13 10:54 ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-13 11:11   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-13 11:30     ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-14 10:46       ` [PATCH 1/2] ARM: hyp-stub: improve ABI Russell King
2016-12-14 11:49         ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-15 11:18         ` Marc Zyngier
2016-12-15 11:35           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-15 11:46             ` Marc Zyngier
2016-12-15 15:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-15 15:37                 ` Marc Zyngier
2016-12-15 18:57                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-17 12:07                     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-02 12:12                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-03  9:51                     ` Christoffer Dall
2017-01-09 12:26                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 13:26                         ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2017-01-09 14:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 14:10                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 14:42                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 14:57                               ` Christoffer Dall
2017-01-09 15:01                             ` Christoffer Dall
2017-01-09 15:43                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 12:54           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 13:14             ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-09 13:20               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-09 13:31                 ` Marc Zyngier
2017-01-09 14:28             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-14 10:46       ` [PATCH 2/2] ARM: soft-reboot into same mode that we entered the kernel Russell King
2016-12-14 11:56         ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-14 12:05           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-14 12:17             ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-14 12:29               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-14 12:40                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-12-14 12:46                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-14 13:42             ` Marc Zyngier

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