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From: hch@lst.de (Christoph Hellwig)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:48:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170110144839.GB27156@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4137257.d2v87kqLLv@wuerfel>

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:01:05PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> Another workaround me might need is to limit amount of concurrent DMA
> in the NVMe driver based on some platform quirk. The way that NVMe works,
> it can have very large amounts of data that is concurrently mapped into
> the device.

That's not really just NVMe - other storage and network controllers also
can DMA map giant amounts of memory.  There are a couple aspects to it:

 - dma coherent memoery - right now NVMe doesn't use too much of it,
   but upcoming low-end NVMe controllers will soon start to require
   fairl large amounts of it for the host memory buffer feature that
   allows for DRAM-less controller designs.  As an interesting quirk
   that is memory only used by the PCIe devices, and never accessed
   by the Linux host at all.

 - size vs number of the dynamic mapping.  We probably want the dma_ops
   specify a maximum mapping size for a given device.  As long as we
   can make progress with a few mappings swiotlb / the iommu can just
   fail mapping and the driver will propagate that to the block layer
   that throttles I/O.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-10 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-29 20:45 [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-29 20:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] rcar-pcie: set host bridge's " Nikita Yushchenko
2016-12-30  9:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit " Sergei Shtylyov
2016-12-30 10:06   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-03 18:44 ` Will Deacon
2017-01-03 19:00   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 19:01   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 20:13     ` Grygorii Strashko
2017-01-03 20:23       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-03 23:13   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04  6:24     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 13:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 14:30         ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-04 14:46           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 15:29             ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 11:10               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-06 13:47                 ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:38                   ` [PATCH] arm64: do not set dma masks that device connection can't handle Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-06 14:45                   ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-08  7:09                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-09  6:56                       ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 14:05                   ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-09 20:34                     ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-09 20:57                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <e084dbad-29ab-25bd-5e17-da0fcd92f7ac@cogentembedded.com>
2017-01-10  7:07                           ` NVMe vs DMA addressing limitations Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10  7:31                             ` Nikita Yushchenko
2017-01-10 11:01                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:48                                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2017-01-10 15:02                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 10:09                                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2017-01-12 11:56                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-12 13:07                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 10:54                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 10:47                         ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dma_mapping: allow PCI host driver to limit DMA mask Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-10 14:44                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-10 15:00                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-02-16 16:12 ` Arnd Bergmann

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