From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com (Lorenzo Pieralisi) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 18:35:30 +0000 Subject: [QUESTION] Early Write Acknowledge for PCIe configuration space In-Reply-To: <20170106114231.GC15333@arm.com> References: <6092525.UgRCY3dpzP@wuerfel> <20170106114231.GC15333@arm.com> Message-ID: <20170208183530.GA27720@red-moon> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 11:42:32AM +0000, Will Deacon wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 12:24:25PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Friday, January 6, 2017 11:15:22 AM CET John Garry wrote: > > > [apologies if this has been queried before] > > > > > > Hi ARM guys, > > > > > > I have a question about the device memory attributes we assign for PCIe > > > config space for arm64. Currently we use ioremap to map in the config > > > space; this uses nGnRE, which means we enable Early Write Acknowledge. > > > > > > The ARMv8 ARM states that "ARM recommend that No Early Write Acknowledge > > > Hint is used for PCIe configuration writes". > > > > > > I understand a problem with using E is in that configuration write is a > > > non-post operation, which means the RP requires to get the completion > > > ack from the EP The problem here is if CPU writes data to ECAM by E, > > > complete will go back to CPU directly, and maybe at this point the write > > > has not reached the EP. > > > > > > I believe that this may cause ordering issues in PCI read/write. In > > > practice we use non-relaxed readl/writel to access config space, which > > > include the synchronization barriers, which, *as I understand*, even if > > > for full system domain, may be negated by the E attribute for PCIe. > > > > I don't think the barriers in readl/writel are enough here, in particular > > the write barrier is *before* the access to synchronize DMAs > > on RAM with MMIO accesses, which is a bit different from what you > > have here. > > > > > So a question: why is the recommendation in the ARMv8 ARM ignored? > > > > Probably nobody thought about this properly in the Linux drivers. The > > ARMv8 ARM sounds correct here. > > The ARMv8 ARM also says that the E attribute is a hint, so there's no > guarantee that it's actually honoured by the implementation. However, > now that it explicitly mentions PCI config space, the intention is clearly > that nE *is* honoured for systems using PCIe, so I agree that we should make > this change. I don't want to use the nE type for all ioremap invocations, > though. I suspect this is a potential issue on ARM 32-bit systems too(?). Fixing IO space should be reasonably simple, we just have to change the pgprot_device() in pci_remap_iospace() to pgprot_noncached() (they are the same attributes on ARM 32-bit already if I am not mistaken). What do we want to do for config space ? Implement ioremap_uc() for ARM/ARM64 (and add a devm_ioremap_uc() call to use it in basically all drivers/pci/host implementations to map config space - or we just patch the ioremap calls in drivers/pci/ecam.c and we assume the other hosts controllers have purportedly called devm_ioremap() because on those platforms it just works ok till further notice ?) Thanks, Lorenzo