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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 15:26:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170620132620.GA16881@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170620122400.sm7qqvwyj6cuzarw@piout.net>

On Tue 2017-06-20 14:24:00, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 20/06/2017 at 14:10:11 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Tue 2017-06-20 12:03:48, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > > On 20/06/2017 at 11:35:08 +0200, Benjamin Gaignard wrote:
> > > > rtc_time_to_tm() and rtc_tm_to_time() are deprecated because they
> > > > rely on 32bits variables and that will make rtc break in y2038/2016.
> > > 
> > > Please don't, because this hide the fact that the hardware will not
> > > handle dates in y2038 anyway and as pointed by Russell a few month ago,
> > > rtc_time_to_tm will be able to catch it but the 64 bit version will
> > > silently ignore it.
> > 
> > Reference? Because rtc on PCs stores date in binary coded decimal, so
> > it is likely to break in 2100, not 2038...
> 
> I'm not saying it should be done but clearly, that is not the correct
> thing to do for RTCs that are using a single 32 bits register to store
> the time.
> You give one example, I can give you three: armada38x, at91sam9,
> at32ap700x and that just in the beginning of the series.

I wanted reference to Russell's mail.

> And yes, on PC, they will break in 2100, other in 2106, some in 2070.
> I've delayed the tree wide patching until I manage to finish reworking
> the infrastructure needed to handle the limits of the RTCs.

Kernel does not know if it has working RTC or not, so it should use
64bit variables. Merging this -- does not hide anything. Yes, some
drivers still may have problems -- so we fix the drivers.

You said:

> > > rtc_time_to_tm will be able to catch it but the 64 bit will
> > > silently ignore it.

If that's the case, we may need 64bit version to be smarter.. but
we'll still need 64bit variables in the kernel.
									Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-20 13:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20  9:35 [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 07/51] rtc: ab8500: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 16:06   ` Linus Walleij
2017-06-21  6:57   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 12/51] rtc: coh901331: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 16:07   ` [rtc-linux] " Linus Walleij
2017-06-20 21:21   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 17/51] rtc: digicolor: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 26/51] rtc: gemini: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 29/51] rtc: lpc32xx: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 34/51] rtc: pl031: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 16:08   ` Linus Walleij
2017-06-20 21:05     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 39/51] rtc: sirfsoc: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20  9:35 ` [PATCH 43/51] rtc: sun6i: " Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 10:03 ` [PATCH 00/51] rtc: " Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 10:07   ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 12:10   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 12:24     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 13:26       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-06-20 13:37         ` Steve Twiss
2017-06-20 13:44           ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:48             ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 15:07               ` Benjamin Gaignard
2017-06-20 21:15                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  9:26                   ` David Laight
2017-06-21  9:35                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20 22:08                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  9:14                   ` Benjamin Gaignard
     [not found] <20170620213507.urobmtg34vzubrdq@piout.net>
2017-06-20 22:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-20 22:38   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  7:51   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  8:39     ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-21  6:34       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 12:35         ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-21 18:08           ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  9:19       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21  9:41         ` Alexandre Belloni

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