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From: mark.rutland@arm.com (Mark Rutland)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] arm64: add VMAP_STACK and detect out-of-bounds SP
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 15:06:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170714140605.GB16687@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu96YHXDta7=YdYO4=wtR3mGVdkzAkG6tSzS-vo7toiPXA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 01:27:14PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 14 July 2017 at 11:48, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On 14 July 2017 at 11:32, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 07:28:48PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:

> >>> OK, so here's a crazy idea: what if we
> >>> a) carve out a dedicated range in the VMALLOC area for stacks
> >>> b) for each stack, allocate a naturally aligned window of 2x the stack
> >>> size, and map the stack inside it, leaving the remaining space
> >>> unmapped

> >> The logical ops (TST) and conditional branches (TB(N)Z, CB(N)Z) operate
> >> on XZR rather than SP, so to do this we need to get the SP value into a
> >> GPR.
> >>
> >> Previously, I assumed this meant we needed to corrupt a GPR (and hence
> >> stash that GPR in a sysreg), so I started writing code to free sysregs.
> >>
> >> However, I now realise I was being thick, since we can stash the GPR
> >> in the SP:
> >>
> >>         sub     sp, sp, x0      // sp = orig_sp - x0
> >>         add     x0, sp, x0      // x0 = x0 - (orig_sp - x0) == orig_sp

That comment is off, and should say     x0 = x0 + (orig_sp - x0) == orig_sp

> >>         sub     x0, x0, #S_FRAME_SIZE
> >>         tb(nz)  x0, #THREAD_SHIFT, overflow
> >>         add     x0, x0, #S_FRAME_SIZE
> >>         sub     x0, sp, x0
> 
> You need a neg x0, x0 here I think

Oh, whoops. I'd mis-simplified things.

We can avoid that by storing orig_sp + orig_x0 in sp:

	add	sp, sp, x0	// sp = orig_sp + orig_x0
	sub	x0, sp, x0	// x0 = orig_sp
	< check > 
	sub	x0, sp, x0	// x0 = orig_x0
	sub	sp, sp, x0	// sp = orig_sp

... which works in a locally-built kernel where I've aligned all the
stacks.

> ... only, this requires a dedicated stack region, and so we'd need to
> check whether sp is inside that window as well.
>
> The easieast way would be to use a window whose start address is base2
> aligned, but that means the beginning of the kernel VA range (where
> KASAN currently lives, and cannot be moved afaik), or a window at the
> top of the linear region. Neither look very appealing
> 
> So that means arbitrary low and high limits to compare against in this
> entry path. That means more GPRs I'm afraid.

Could you elaborate on that? I'm not sure that I follow.

My understanding was that the comprimise with this approach is that we
only catch overflow/underflow within THREAD_SIZE of the stack, and can
get false-negatives elsewhere. Otherwise, IIUC this is sufficient

Are you after a more stringent check (like those from the two existing
proposals that caught all out-of-bounds accesses)?

Or am I missing something else?

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-14 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 22:32 [RFC PATCH 0/6] arm64: alternative VMAP_STACK implementation Mark Rutland
2017-07-12 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] arm64: use tpidr_el1 for current, free sp_el0 Mark Rutland
2017-07-14  1:30   ` Will Deacon
2017-07-12 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] arm64: avoid open-coding THREAD_SIZE{,_ORDER} Mark Rutland
2017-07-13 10:18   ` James Morse
2017-07-13 11:26     ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-12 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] arm64: pad stacks to PAGE_SIZE for VMAP_STACK Mark Rutland
2017-07-12 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] arm64: pass stack base to secondary_start_kernel Mark Rutland
2017-07-12 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] arm64: keep track of current stack Mark Rutland
2017-07-12 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] arm64: add VMAP_STACK and detect out-of-bounds SP Mark Rutland
2017-07-13  6:58   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-13 10:49     ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-13 11:49       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-13 16:10         ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-13 17:55           ` [kernel-hardening] " Mark Rutland
2017-07-13 18:28             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-14 10:32               ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-14 10:48                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-14 12:27                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-14 14:06                     ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2017-07-14 14:14                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-14 14:39                       ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-14 15:03                         ` Robin Murphy
2017-07-14 15:15                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-14 15:25                           ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-14 21:27                       ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-16  0:03                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-18 21:53                           ` Laura Abbott
2017-07-19  8:08                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                               ` <aa086315-722b-bff3-90bb-f479229ed104@redhat.com>
2017-07-20  5:35                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-20  8:36                                   ` James Morse
2017-07-20  8:56                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-20 17:30                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-20 19:10                                         ` Laura Abbott
2017-07-14 12:52                   ` Mark Rutland
2017-07-14 12:55                     ` Ard Biesheuvel

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