[PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables

[PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables

[Will Deacon]

Hi Dave,

[+linux-arm-kernel]

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 03:31:46PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> KAISER makes it harder to defeat KASLR, but makes syscalls and
> interrupts slower.  These patches are based on work from a team at
> Graz University of Technology posted here[1].  The major addition is
> support for Intel PCIDs which builds on top of Andy Lutomorski's PCID
> work merged for 4.14.  PCIDs make KAISER's overhead very reasonable
> for a wide variety of use cases.

I just wanted to say that I've got a version of this up and running for
arm64. I'm still ironing out a few small details, but I hope to post it
after the merge window. We always use ASIDs, and the perf impact looks
like it aligns roughly with your findings for a PCID-enabled x86 system.

Cheers,

Will

[PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables

[Dave Hansen]

On 11/02/2017 12:01 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 03:31:46PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
>> KAISER makes it harder to defeat KASLR, but makes syscalls and
>> interrupts slower.  These patches are based on work from a team at
>> Graz University of Technology posted here[1].  The major addition is
>> support for Intel PCIDs which builds on top of Andy Lutomorski's PCID
>> work merged for 4.14.  PCIDs make KAISER's overhead very reasonable
>> for a wide variety of use cases.
> I just wanted to say that I've got a version of this up and running for
> arm64. I'm still ironing out a few small details, but I hope to post it
> after the merge window. We always use ASIDs, and the perf impact looks
> like it aligns roughly with your findings for a PCID-enabled x86 system.

Welcome to the party!

I don't know if you've found anything different, but there been woefully
little code that's really cross-architecture.  The kernel task
stack-mapping stuff _was_, but it's going away.  The per-cpu-user-mapped
section stuff might be common, I guess.

Is there any other common infrastructure that we can or should be sharing?

[PATCH 00/23] KAISER: unmap most of the kernel from userspace page tables

[Will Deacon]

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:38:05PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/02/2017 12:01 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 03:31:46PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> KAISER makes it harder to defeat KASLR, but makes syscalls and
> >> interrupts slower.  These patches are based on work from a team at
> >> Graz University of Technology posted here[1].  The major addition is
> >> support for Intel PCIDs which builds on top of Andy Lutomorski's PCID
> >> work merged for 4.14.  PCIDs make KAISER's overhead very reasonable
> >> for a wide variety of use cases.
> > I just wanted to say that I've got a version of this up and running for
> > arm64. I'm still ironing out a few small details, but I hope to post it
> > after the merge window. We always use ASIDs, and the perf impact looks
> > like it aligns roughly with your findings for a PCID-enabled x86 system.
> 
> Welcome to the party!
> 
> I don't know if you've found anything different, but there been woefully
> little code that's really cross-architecture.  The kernel task
> stack-mapping stuff _was_, but it's going away.  The per-cpu-user-mapped
> section stuff might be common, I guess.

I currently don't have anything mapped other than the trampoline page, so
I haven't had to do per-cpu stuff (yet). This will interfere with perf
tracing using SPE, but if that's the only thing that needs it then it's
a hard sell, I think.

> Is there any other common infrastructure that we can or should be sharing?

I really can't see anything. My changes are broadly divided into:

  * Page table setup
  * Exception entry/exit via trampoline
  * User access (e.g. get_user)
  * TLB invalidation
  * Context switch (backend of switch_mm)

which is all deeply arch-specific.

Will