From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Branch predictor hardening for Cavium ThunderX2
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:53:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180109095326.GC4297@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180109022617.GA4924@jc-sabre>
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 06:26:20PM -0800, Jayachandran C wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:23:41PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 09:19:43AM -0800, Jayachandran C wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 04:46:52PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 10:53:36PM -0800, Jayachandran C wrote:
> > > > > + arm_smccc_smc(CAVIUM_TX2_SIP_SMC_CALL, CAVIUM_TX2_BTB_HARDEN_CAP, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, &res);
> > > >
> > > > One thing to be aware of here is that if somebody configures qemu to emulate
> > > > a TX2, this may actually disappear into EL3 and not return. You're better
> > > > off sticking with PSCI GET_VERSION in terms of portability, but it's your
> > > > call -- I'd expect you to deal with any breakage reports on the list due
> > > > to the SMC above. Fair?
> > >
> > > I don't like having a custom SMC here either. But Overloading PSCI get version
> > > is the problem as I wrote earlier - there is no way to check if the firmware
> > > implements BTB hardening with overloading. There is a good chance that users
> > > with old firmware will just fail without any warning.
> >
> > That's true, but there is precedent for this elsewhere. For example, CPU
> > errata that require a firmware change are often not probable. Also, your SMC
> > call won't always work (see the qemu comment below). Note that I'm not
> > saying I won't take this code, just that you need to be aware of what
> > you're doing.
> >
> > > Is there a reason for overloading PSCI get version? Allocating a new standard
> > > SMC number would make checking for existance and usage much simpler.
> >
> > PSCI get version is what we have today. We're working on extending PSCI to
> > allocate a new standard SMC number, but we need something that can be used
> > with existing firmware too and standardisation doesn't happen overnight.
>
> Can you hold this patchset until the SMC number is published? Otherwise we
> will end up with two incompatible interfaces, and the mess of supporting
> both.
This has already been queued, and will be necessary for older PSCI versions
that can be extended to perform the BP invalidation in get version, but
which cannot be upgraded to a newer version of the spec. But that's fine; we
can support both interfaces because the new one will need to be discoverable
anyway.
> Or if there is a plan standardize this later, I can pickup a vendor specific
> SMC for now, and switch over to the standard one later. Any suggestions here?
I would suggest using GET VERSION for now and switching later, but it's
entirely up to you.
Wil
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-05 13:12 [PATCH v2 00/11] arm64 kpti hardening and variant 2 workarounds Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] arm64: use RET instruction for exiting the trampoline Will Deacon
2018-01-06 13:13 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-08 14:33 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-08 14:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-08 14:45 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-08 14:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-08 15:27 ` David Laight
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] arm64: Kconfig: Reword UNMAP_KERNEL_AT_EL0 kconfig entry Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] arm64: Take into account ID_AA64PFR0_EL1.CSV3 Will Deacon
2018-01-08 7:24 ` [v2,03/11] " Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 9:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-01-08 17:40 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 17:51 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-09 4:06 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-09 10:00 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-19 1:00 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-08 17:52 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-01-08 17:06 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-08 17:50 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] arm64: cpufeature: Pass capability structure to ->enable callback Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] drivers/firmware: Expose psci_get_version through psci_ops structure Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] arm64: Move post_ttbr_update_workaround to C code Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] arm64: Add skeleton to harden the branch predictor against aliasing attacks Will Deacon
2018-01-08 0:15 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-08 12:16 ` James Morse
2018-01-08 14:26 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-17 4:10 ` Yisheng Xie
2018-01-17 10:07 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-18 8:37 ` Yisheng Xie
2018-01-19 3:37 ` Li Kun
2018-01-19 14:28 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-22 6:52 ` Li Kun
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] arm64: KVM: Use per-CPU vector when BP hardening is enabled Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] arm64: KVM: Make PSCI_VERSION a fast path Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] arm64: cputype: Add missing MIDR values for Cortex-A72 and Cortex-A75 Will Deacon
2018-01-05 13:12 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] arm64: Implement branch predictor hardening for affected Cortex-A CPUs Will Deacon
2018-01-05 14:46 ` James Morse
2018-01-05 14:57 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-01-08 6:31 ` [v2, " Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 6:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: cputype: Add MIDR values for Cavium ThunderX2 CPUs Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 6:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Branch predictor hardening for Cavium ThunderX2 Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 16:46 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-08 17:19 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-08 17:23 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-09 2:26 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-09 9:53 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-01-09 12:47 ` [PATCH v2] " Jayachandran C
[not found] ` <e9a192da-f603-6523-6d2e-858eb9c7d1b2@jonmasters.org>
[not found] ` <20180116234554.GA38392@jc-sabre>
2018-01-17 18:34 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-18 13:53 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-18 17:56 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-18 18:27 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-18 23:28 ` Jayachandran C
2018-01-19 1:17 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-19 12:22 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Jayachandran C
2018-01-19 12:22 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] arm64: Turn on KPTI only on CPUs that need it Jayachandran C
2018-01-22 11:41 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-22 11:51 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-01-22 11:55 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-22 18:59 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-19 19:08 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] arm64: Branch predictor hardening for Cavium ThunderX2 Jon Masters
2018-01-22 11:33 ` Will Deacon
2018-01-22 19:00 ` Jon Masters
2018-01-23 9:51 ` Will Deacon
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