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From: pavel@ucw.cz (Pavel Machek)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Letux-kernel] [PATCH v5 3/5] misc serdev: Add w2sg0004 (gps receiver) power control driver
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 16:26:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180212152618.GC13962@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180112153903.GB5992@localhost>

Hi!

> > Let's restart this discussion and focus on the main roadblock (others
> > are minor details which can be sorted out later).
> > 
> > If it feels like a hack, the key issue seems to me to be the choice of
> > the API to present the GPS data to user space. Right?
> 
> Or even more fundamentally, does this belong in the kernel at all?

Yes, it does.

> Given that we'd still depend on gpsd and other, proprietary, daemons to
> actually parse and use (also for control) the plethora of GPS protocols
> available, it may even be best to just keep it all in user space.

No. We'd want to move away from gpsd in the long
term. (/dev/input/mice was in similar situation.)

> Now, if we'd ever have a proper GPS framework that handled everything in
> kernel space (i.e. no more gpsd) then we would be able to write kernel
> drivers that also take care of PM. But perhaps that's unlikely to ever
> be realised given the state of things (proprietary protocols, numerous
> quirky implementations, etc).

That is what needs to happen.

> The kernel is probably not the place to be working around issues like
> that, even if serdev at least allows for such hacks to be fairly
> isolated in drivers (unlike some of the earlier proposals touching core
> code).

Oh, kernel is indeed right place to provide hardware abstraction --
and that includes bug workarounds.

We'd like unmodified userspace to run on any supported hardware,
remember?

									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-12 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01  7:49 [PATCH v5 0/5] misc serdev: new serdev based driver for Wi2Wi w2sg00x4 GPS module H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] dt-bindings: define vendor prefix for Wi2Wi, Inc H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01 14:44   ` Andreas Färber
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] dt-bindings: gps: add w2sg00x4 bindings documentation (GPS module with UART)) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] misc serdev: Add w2sg0004 (gps receiver) power control driver H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 12:44   ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-22 14:40     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-09 11:55       ` [Letux-kernel] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-12 15:39         ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-12 17:59           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-18  6:13             ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-18 13:43               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-07 15:53                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-19 14:05                   ` Johan Hovold
2018-02-12 15:26           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-02-27  7:04             ` [Letux-kernel] " Johan Hovold
2018-02-27  7:32               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-19 13:54                 ` Johan Hovold
2018-03-20 14:49                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-26 13:59                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-27 18:38               ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-12 15:25         ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-09 17:43     ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-01-12 14:46       ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-12 18:40         ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-01-18  6:47           ` Johan Hovold
2018-03-08  6:16             ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-03-19 14:02               ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] DTS: gta04: add uart2 child node for w2sg00x4 H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-21 14:53   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] misc serdev: w2sg0004: add debugging code and Kconfig H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 12:51   ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-22 14:41     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 14:58       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-18  8:52 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] misc serdev: new serdev based driver for Wi2Wi w2sg00x4 GPS module H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-18 14:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-18 14:52     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller

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