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From: johan@kernel.org (Johan Hovold)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Letux-kernel] [PATCH v5 3/5] misc serdev: Add w2sg0004 (gps receiver) power control driver
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2018 14:54:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180319135418.GL18359@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22A8F5FE-C8B9-46EB-B98D-A94EA4170131@goldelico.com>

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 08:32:50AM +0100, H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Hi Johan,
> 
> > Am 27.02.2018 um 08:04 schrieb Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>:
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 04:26:18PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> 
> >>>> Let's restart this discussion and focus on the main roadblock (others
> >>>> are minor details which can be sorted out later).
> >>>> 
> >>>> If it feels like a hack, the key issue seems to me to be the choice of
> >>>> the API to present the GPS data to user space. Right?
> >>> 
> >>> Or even more fundamentally, does this belong in the kernel at all?
> >> 
> >> Yes, it does.
> 
> Thanks, Pavel for supporting our view.
> 
> > 
> > But not necessarily in its current form.
> 
> Is this a "yes after some code fixes"?

No, we need some kind of at least rudimentary gps framework even if we
allow for a raw (NMEA) interface for the time being (possibly
indefinitely).

> Pavel mentioned an example where such an evolutionary approach was taken.
> > 
> >>> Now, if we'd ever have a proper GPS framework that handled everything in
> >>> kernel space (i.e. no more gpsd) then we would be able to write kernel
> >>> drivers that also take care of PM. But perhaps that's unlikely to ever
> >>> be realised given the state of things (proprietary protocols, numerous
> >>> quirky implementations, etc).
> >> 
> >> That is what needs to happen.
> >> 
> >>> The kernel is probably not the place to be working around issues like
> >>> that, even if serdev at least allows for such hacks to be fairly
> >>> isolated in drivers (unlike some of the earlier proposals touching core
> >>> code).
> >> 
> >> Oh, kernel is indeed right place to provide hardware abstraction --
> >> and that includes bug workarounds.
> > 
> > Right, at least when such hacks can be confined to a driver and not be
> > spread all over the place.
> 
> It seems that you forgot that the driver we propose is not spread all over
> the place. It *is* confined to a single driver thanks to the serdev api.

I believe that's what I wrote above.

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-19 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-01  7:49 [PATCH v5 0/5] misc serdev: new serdev based driver for Wi2Wi w2sg00x4 GPS module H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] dt-bindings: define vendor prefix for Wi2Wi, Inc H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01 14:44   ` Andreas Färber
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] dt-bindings: gps: add w2sg00x4 bindings documentation (GPS module with UART)) H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] misc serdev: Add w2sg0004 (gps receiver) power control driver H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 12:44   ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-22 14:40     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-09 11:55       ` [Letux-kernel] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-12 15:39         ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-12 17:59           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-01-18  6:13             ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-18 13:43               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-07 15:53                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-19 14:05                   ` Johan Hovold
2018-02-12 15:26           ` [Letux-kernel] " Pavel Machek
2018-02-27  7:04             ` Johan Hovold
2018-02-27  7:32               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-19 13:54                 ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2018-03-20 14:49                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2018-03-26 13:59                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-27 18:38               ` Pavel Machek
2018-02-12 15:25         ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-09 17:43     ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-01-12 14:46       ` Johan Hovold
2018-01-12 18:40         ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-01-18  6:47           ` Johan Hovold
2018-03-08  6:16             ` Andreas Kemnade
2018-03-19 14:02               ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] DTS: gta04: add uart2 child node for w2sg00x4 H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-21 14:53   ` Tony Lindgren
2017-12-01  7:49 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] misc serdev: w2sg0004: add debugging code and Kconfig H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 12:51   ` Johan Hovold
2017-12-22 14:41     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-22 14:58       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-18  8:52 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] misc serdev: new serdev based driver for Wi2Wi w2sg00x4 GPS module H. Nikolaus Schaller
2017-12-18 14:48   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2017-12-18 14:52     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller

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