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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 4/6] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: add support for non-strict mode
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 08:35:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180815073501.GA2375@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180815073300.GA2100@arm.com>

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 08:33:01AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 01:43:37AM +0000, Yang, Shunyong wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-08-14 at 11:02 +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > On 14/08/18 09:35, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 04:33:41PM +0800, Leizhen (ThunderTown)
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On 2018/8/6 9:32, Yang, Shunyong wrote:
> > > > > > On 2018/7/26 22:37, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > > > > > Because DMA code is not the only caller of iommu_map/unmap.
> > > > > > > It's
> > > > > > > perfectly legal in the IOMMU API to partially unmap a
> > > > > > > previous mapping
> > > > > > > such that a block entry needs to be split. The DMA API,
> > > > > > > however, is a
> > > > > > > lot more constrined, and thus by construction the iommu-dma
> > > > > > > layer will
> > > > > > > never generate a block-splitting iommu_unmap() except as a
> > > > > > > result of
> > > > > > > illegal DMA API usage, and we obviously do not need to
> > > > > > > optimise for that
> > > > > > > (you will get a warning about mismatched unmaps under dma-
> > > > > > > debug, but
> > > > > > > it's a bit too expensive to police in the general case).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I was reading the code around arm_lpae_split_blk_unmap(),
> > > > > > I was
> > > > > > curious in which scenario a block will be split. Now with your
> > > > > > comments
> > > > > > "Because DMA code is not the only caller of iommu_map/unmap",
> > > > > > it seems
> > > > > > depending on the user.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would you please explain this further? I mean besides DMA,
> > > > > > which user
> > > > > > will use iommu_map/umap and how it split a block.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also think that arm_lpae_split_blk_unmap() scenario is not
> > > > > exist, maybe
> > > > > we should remove it, and give a warning for this wrong usage.
> > > >
> > > > Can't it happen with VFIO?
> > >
> > > ...or GPU drivers, or anyone else managing their own IOMMU domain
> > > directly. A sequence like this is perfectly legal:
> > >
> > >     iommu_map(domain, iova, paddr, SZ_8M, prot);
> > >     ...
> > >     iommu_unmap(domain, iova + SZ_1M * 5, SZ_1M * 3);
> > >
> > > where if iova and paddr happen to be suitably aligned, the map will
> > > lay
> > > down blocks, and the unmap will then have to split one of them into
> > > pages to remove half of it. We don't tear our hair out maintaining
> > > split_blk_unmap() for the fun of it :(
> >
> > Thank you for the GPU example. But for VFIO, I remember all memory will
> > be   pinned in the early stage of emulator (such as qemu) start. So,
> > the split will occur at which operation? Maybe virtio balloon inflate?
> 
> My memory is pretty hazy here, but I was fairly sure that VFIO didn't
> always unmap() with the same granularity as it map()'d, at least for
> the v1 interface. Either way, split_blk_unmap() was written because it was
> necessary at the time, rather than just for fun!
> 
> Will
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Urgh, sorry about this threatening disclaimer ^^. Please disregard.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-15  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-12  6:18 [PATCH v3 0/6] add non-strict mode support for arm-smmu-v3 Zhen Lei
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: fix the implementation of flush_iotlb_all hook Zhen Lei
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] iommu/dma: add support for non-strict mode Zhen Lei
2018-07-24 22:01   ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-26  4:15     ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] iommu/amd: use default branch to deal with all non-supported capabilities Zhen Lei
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: add support for non-strict mode Zhen Lei
2018-07-24 22:25   ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-26  7:20     ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-07-26 14:35       ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-06  1:32         ` Yang, Shunyong
2018-08-14  8:33           ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-08-14  8:35             ` Will Deacon
2018-08-14 10:02               ` Robin Murphy
2018-08-15  1:43                 ` Yang, Shunyong
2018-08-15  7:33                   ` Will Deacon
2018-08-15  7:35                     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-08-16  0:43                       ` Yang, Shunyong
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: " Zhen Lei
2018-07-12  6:18 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: add bootup option "iommu_strict_mode" Zhen Lei
2018-07-24 22:46   ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-26  7:41     ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-07-24 21:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] add non-strict mode support for arm-smmu-v3 Robin Murphy
2018-07-26  3:44   ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-07-26 14:16     ` Robin Murphy
2018-07-27  2:49       ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2018-07-27  9:37         ` Will Deacon

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