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From: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] KVM: arm64: Forbid kprobing of the VHE world-switch code
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 09:04:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190201080406.GR13482@e113682-lin.lund.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2711e333-bbe2-a207-604c-43c2c84cef38@arm.com>

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 06:53:06PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
> Hey Christoffer,
> 
> On 31/01/2019 08:08, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 04:32:54PM +0000, James Morse wrote:
> >> On systems with VHE the kernel and KVM's world-switch code run at the
> >> same exception level. Code that is only used on a VHE system does not
> >> need to be annotated as __hyp_text as it can reside anywhere in the
> >> kernel text.
> >>
> >> __hyp_text was also used to prevent kprobes from patching breakpoint
> >> instructions into this region, as this code runs at a different
> >> exception level. While this is no longer true with VHE, KVM still
> >> switches VBAR_EL1, meaning a kprobe's breakpoint executed in the
> >> world-switch code will cause a hyp-panic.
> > 
> > Forgive potentially very stupid questions here, but:
> > 
> >  (1) Would it make sense to move the save/restore VBAR_EL1 to the last
> >      possible moment, and would that actually allow kprobes to work for
> >      the world-switch code, or does that just result in other weird
> >      problems?
> 
> This would work for taking the debug exception. But next kprobes wants to
> single-step the probed instruction in an out-of-line slot. I don't think we can
> do this if we've already configured the debug hardware for the guest.
> (If could at least turn single-step off when we return to guest-EL0, which
> guest-EL1 was single-stepping)
> 
> 

I suspected something like that, let's not go there.

> >  (2) Are we sure that this catches every call path of every non-inlined
> >      function called after switchign VBAR_EL1?  Can kprobes only be
> >      called on exported symbols, or can you (if you know the address
> >      somehow) put a kprobe on a static function as well.  If there are
> >      any concerns in this area, we might want to consider (1) more
> >      closely.
> 
> Hmmm, good question. The blacklisting applies to whole symbols as seen by
> kallsyms, the compiler has no idea what is going on.
> 
> If it chose not to inline something, it would be kprobe'able yes.
> 
> __kprobes uses a section function-attribute instead. The gcc manual[0] doesn't
> say what happens when inline and the section attributes are used together. (or
> at least I couldn't find it)
> 
> A quick experiment with gcc 8.2.0 shows adding __kprobes on the inlines gets
> discarded when they are inlined. I'm not sure how to trick the compiler into
> not-inlining it to see what happens, but adding 'noinline' to the header file
> causes it to duplicate the function everywhere, but puts it in the __kprobes
> section.
> 
> (For KVM we could use the 'flatten' attribute, but that does say 'if possible'.
> Alternatively we can decorate all the inline helpers we know we use with
> __kprobes as a safety net.)
> 
> I think this is a wider problem with kprobes.
> 

Sounds like it.  Probably in the "you did something crazy, and your
kernel is going to suffer from it" category.

Let's stick to your approach.

Thanks for the explanation.

    Christoffer

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-01  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-24 16:32 [PATCH v2 0/4] Fix some KVM/HYP interactions with kprobes James Morse
2019-01-24 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] KVM: arm64: Forbid kprobing of the VHE world-switch code James Morse
2019-01-25  1:28   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-01-31  8:08   ` Christoffer Dall
2019-01-31 18:53     ` James Morse
2019-02-01  8:04       ` Christoffer Dall [this message]
2019-02-01 13:34   ` Marc Zyngier
2019-01-24 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arm64: kprobe: Always blacklist the KVM " James Morse
2019-01-31  8:08   ` Christoffer Dall
2019-01-24 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64: hyp-stub: Forbid kprobing of the hyp-stub James Morse
2019-01-31  8:04   ` Christoffer Dall
2019-02-01 12:02     ` James Morse
2019-01-24 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: hibernate: Clean the __hyp_text to PoC after resume James Morse

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