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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>, Harald Geyer <harald@ccbib.org>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	arm-linux <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@aosc.io>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: dts: allwinner: a64: enable ANX6345 bridge on Teres-I
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 11:58:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190701095842.fvganvycce2cy7jn@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bb2c2c00-b46e-1984-088f-861ac8952331@samsung.com>


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Hi!

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:39:32PM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> On 12.06.2019 17:20, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> >> I am not sure if I understand whole discussion here, but I also do not
> >> understand whole edp-connector thing.
> > The context is this one:
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/257352/?series=51182&rev=1
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/283012/?series=56163&rev=1
> > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/286468/?series=56776&rev=2
> >
> > TL;DR: This bridge is being used on ARM laptops that can come with
> > different eDP panels. Some of these panels require a regulator to be
> > enabled for the panel to work, and this is obviously something that
> > should be in the DT.
> >
> > However, we can't really describe the panel itself, since the vendor
> > uses several of them and just relies on the eDP bus to do its job at
> > retrieving the EDIDs. A generic panel isn't really working either
> > since that would mean having a generic behaviour for all the panels
> > connected to that bus, which isn't there either.
> >
> > The connector allows to expose this nicely.
>
> As VESA presentation says[1] eDP is based on DP but is much more
> flexible, it is up to integrator (!!!) how the connection, power
> up/down, initialization sequence should be performed. Trying to cover
> every such case in edp-connector seems to me similar to panel-simple
> attempt failure. Moreover there is no such thing as physical standard
> eDP connector. Till now I though DT connector should describe physical
> connector on the device, now I am lost, are there some DT bindings
> guidelines about definition of a connector?

This might be semantics but I guess we're in some kind of grey area?

Like, for eDP, if it's soldered I guess we could say that there's no
connector. But what happens if for some other board, that signal is
routed through a ribbon?

You could argue that there's no physical connector in both cases, or
that there's one in both, or one for the ribbon and no connector for
the one soldered in.

> Maybe instead of edp-connector one would introduce integrator's specific
> connector, for example with compatible "olimex,teres-edp-connector"
> which should follow edp abstract connector rules? This will be at least
> consistent with below presentation[1] - eDP requirements depends on
> integrator. Then if olimex has standard way of dealing with panels
> present in olimex/teres platforms the driver would then create
> drm_panel/drm_connector/drm_bridge(?) according to these rules, I guess.
> Anyway it still looks fishy for me :), maybe because I am not
> familiarized with details of these platforms.

That makes sense yes

Maxime

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Maxime Ripard, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-01  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-04 12:21 [PATCH v2 0/7] Add anx6345 DP/eDP bridge for Olimex Teres-I Torsten Duwe
2019-06-04 12:22 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] drm/bridge: move ANA78xx driver to analogix subdirectory Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12 10:16   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-04 12:22 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] drm/bridge: split some definitions of ANX78xx to dedicated headers Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12  7:40   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-04 12:22 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] drm/bridge: extract some Analogix I2C DP common code Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12  7:41   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-04 12:22 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] drm/bridge: Prepare Analogix anx6345 support Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12  7:43   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-04 12:23 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] drm/bridge: Add " Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12  9:13   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-07-18 16:42     ` Torsten Duwe
2019-06-04 12:23 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] dt-bindings: Add ANX6345 DP/eDP transmitter binding Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12  8:16   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-12 14:59     ` Torsten Duwe
2019-06-04 12:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: dts: allwinner: a64: enable ANX6345 bridge on Teres-I Torsten Duwe
2019-06-04 15:08   ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2019-06-05 10:13     ` Torsten Duwe
2019-06-05 12:02       ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-06 13:59         ` Harald Geyer
2019-06-07  6:28           ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-07  9:40             ` Torsten Duwe
2019-06-12 10:00               ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-12 15:20                 ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-28 10:39                   ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-07-01  9:58                     ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2019-07-01 12:27                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-07-02  8:13                         ` Maxime Ripard
2019-07-09  0:49                       ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2019-07-09  8:55                         ` Maxime Ripard
2019-07-09  8:58                           ` Icenowy Zheng
2019-07-09 14:21                             ` Maxime Ripard
2019-07-09 20:30                           ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2019-07-10 11:40                             ` Maxime Ripard
2019-07-10 22:11                               ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2019-07-12 20:15                                 ` Maxime Ripard
2019-07-16  0:28                                   ` Vasily Khoruzhick
2019-07-24 13:58                                     ` Maxime Ripard
2019-06-12 15:34               ` Maxime Ripard

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