From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
Vincent Whitchurch <rabinv@axis.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] buffer: Fix I/O error due to ARM read-after-read hazard
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 10:31:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191113103150.GL25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191113102357.GA25875@willie-the-truck>
On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:23:58AM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:39:01AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:22 AM Catalin Marinas
> > <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, so this includes changing test_bit() to perform a READ_ONCE.
> >
> > That's not going to happen.
>
> Ok, I'll stick my neck out here, but if test_bit() is being used to read
> a bitmap that is being concurrently modified (e.g. by set_bit() which boils
> down to atomic_long_or()), then why isn't READ_ONCE() required? Right now,
> test_bit takes a 'const volatile unsigned long *addr' argument, so I don't
> see that you'll get a change in codegen except on alpha and, with this
> erratum, arm32.
I'm not entirely clear what you're suggesting, so I'll just pick the
scenario that I think you're talking about - but I'm not sure it's the
one you're intending.
Using test_bit() in one thread and set_bit() on the same bit in another
thread without locking is going to be racy by definition. It's entirely
possible for:
Thread 1 Thread 2
bit = test_bit(...);
set_bit(...);
/* use bit */
and here, bit == 0 but the bit has been set by thread 2. Use of the
result from test_bit() is inherently a non-atomic operation.
This is why we have test_and_set_bit() and friends that atomically test
that a bit is clear before setting it. Where this is especially
important is for some filesystems, as they use test_and_xxx_bit() to
manage their allocation bitmaps.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-11-13 10:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-12 13:02 [PATCH v2] buffer: Fix I/O error due to ARM read-after-read hazard Vincent Whitchurch
2019-11-12 16:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-11-12 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-12 18:00 ` Will Deacon
2019-11-12 18:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-11-12 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-13 10:23 ` Will Deacon
2019-11-13 10:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2019-11-13 10:49 ` Will Deacon
2019-11-14 13:28 ` Herbert Xu
2019-11-20 19:18 ` Will Deacon
2019-11-21 1:25 ` Herbert Xu
2019-11-21 16:53 ` Will Deacon
2019-11-13 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-13 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
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