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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>,
	Joao Pinto <Joao.Pinto@synopsys.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@st.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	Giuseppe Cavallaro <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com"
	<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 6/8] net: phylink: Configure MAC/PCS when link is up without PHY
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2020 19:32:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200204193230.GT25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200204174318.GB1364@lunn.ch>

On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 06:43:18PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > There, there is one MAC, but there are multiple different PCS - one
> > for SGMII and 1000base-X, another for 10G, another for 25G, etc.
> > These PCS are accessed via a MDIO adapter embedded in each of the
> > MAC hardware blocks.
> 
> Hi Russell
> 
> Marvell mv88e6390X switches are like this is a well. There is a PCS
> for SGMII and 1000Base-X, and a second one for 10G. And it dynamically
> swaps between them depending on the port mode, the so called cmode.
> 
> So a generic solution is required, and please take your time to build
> one.

Well, DSA is quite a mixed bag...

As far as I can work out, the situation with the CPU and DSA ports is
quite hopeless - you've claimed that a change in phylink has broken it,
I can't find what that may be.  The fact is, phylink has never had any
link information for DSA links when no fixed-link property has been
specified in DT.  As I've already said in a previous email about this,
I can't see *any* sane way to fix that - but there was no response.


On a more positive note...

The mac_link_up() changes that I've talked about should work for DSA,
if only there was a reasonable way to reconfigure the ports.  If you
look at the "phy" branch, you will notice that there's a patch there -
"net: mv88e6xxx: use resolved link config in mac_link_up()" which adds
the support to configure the MAC manually.  It's rather messy, and I
see no way to deal with the pause settings.  There is support in some
Marvell DSA switches to force flow control but that's not supported
through the current mid-layer at all (port_set_pause doesn't do it.)
I'm not sure whether the "mv88e6xxx_phy_is_internal()" check there is
the right test for every DSA switch correct either.

What is missing is reading the results from the PCS (aka serdes) and
forwarding them into phylink - I did have a quick look at how that might
be possible, but the DSA code structure (consisting of multiple
mid-layers) makes it hard without rewriting quite a lot of code.  That's
fine if you know all the DSA chips inside out, but I don't - and that's
where we need someone who has the knowledge of all DSA switches that we
support.  Or, we get rid of the multiple mid-layers and switch to a
library approach, so that we can modify support for one DSA switch
without affecting everything.  It may be a simple matter of dropping the
existing serdes workaround, but I'm not sure at the moment.

I've tried this code out on the ZII rev B, I haven't tried it on the rev
C which has the 6390 switches yet.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-04 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-27 11:09 [RFC net-next 0/8] net: Add support for Synopsys DesignWare XPCS Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 1/8] net: stmmac: selftests: Do not fail if PHY is not attached Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 2/8] net: phylink: Add phylink_and and phylink_andnot Helpers Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:16   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 3/8] net: stmmac: Switch to phylink_and()/phylink_andnot() Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 4/8] net: stmmac: Fallback to dev_fwnode() if needed Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 5/8] net: phylink: Add missing Backplane speeds Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 6/8] net: phylink: Configure MAC/PCS when link is up without PHY Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:21   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 11:38     ` Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:46       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 12:50         ` Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 13:37           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 13:57             ` Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 14:00         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-27 14:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 14:51             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-27 16:11               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 16:22                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-27 19:28                   ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-01-28 11:12                     ` Jose Abreu
2020-02-04 17:26                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-02-04 17:43                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-02-04 19:32                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-02-05 12:27                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-02-07 11:21                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-27 16:32                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-27 17:56                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-28 18:08               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-01-28 18:25                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 7/8] net: phy: Add Synopsys DesignWare XPCS MDIO module Jose Abreu
2020-01-27 11:09 ` [RFC net-next 8/8] net: stmmac: Integrate it with DesignWare XPCS Jose Abreu

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