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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <Vincenzo.Frascino@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] arm64: asm: Override SYM_FUNC_START when building the kernel with BTI
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 16:48:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200506154759.GC12919@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200506152552.GE5299@sirena.org.uk>

On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 04:25:52PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 03:45:44PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 02:40:21PM +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> 
> > > I really don't think we should fudge this: if the linker doesn't think
> > > the inputs are BTI-enabled then the compiler or linker is broken, or
> > > there's a bug in the kernel source tree.
> 
> > > The checking done by the toolchain is important -- if we want to
> > > suppress it, we should have an override option than depends on BROKEN
> > > (because yes, you're explicitly risking a broken kernel if you do this).
> 
> > > The fact that all gcc and clang both screwed this up in various ways at
> > > some point is not our fault, or our problem, providing that fixes are
> > > available...
> 
> > > Am I being too paranoid?
> 
> That's my position too, we want the warning - I think if we're going to
> do any handling it should either be to prevent use of kernel BTI
> entirely or to do what Will was originally suggesting and print some
> explanatory text somewhere.  My inclination is that the former is safer
> and fits more with the general architecture approach to this sort of
> thing.
> 
> > I don't think so, but I'm just looking for an answer to "What do we do if
> > people start running into this warning?". As it stands, it sounds like it's
> > unlikely that they will, but if they do then we're going to have to hack
> > something to make it go away.
> 
> It's possible that this e-mail thread showing up in searches might well
> answer people's questions anyway (it is going to be one of the few hits
> for the warning ATM).  How about we deal with this when we get to it, or
> at least as a followup?

Yes, I don't think it's worth writing patches for this now, just wanted
to get a vague idea of our options if people start complaining.

Cheers,

Will

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-06 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-29 21:16 [PATCH v2 00/10] arm64: BTI kernel and vDSO support Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] arm64: bti: Support building kernel C code using BTI Mark Brown
2020-05-05 16:50   ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 17:31     ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 12:24       ` Amit Kachhap
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] arm64: asm: Override SYM_FUNC_START when building the kernel with BTI Mark Brown
2020-05-05 14:56   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 15:18     ` Mark Brown
2020-05-05 16:08       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 17:21         ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06  7:10           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 10:41             ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 10:50               ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 11:43                 ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 12:27                   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 13:03                     ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 13:40                 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-06 14:45                   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 15:25                     ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 15:48                       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-05-06 15:33                     ` Dave Martin
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] arm64: Set GP bit in kernel page tables to enable BTI for the kernel Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] arm64: bpf: Annotate JITed code for BTI Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] arm64: mm: Mark executable text as guarded pages Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] arm64: bti: Provide Kconfig for kernel mode BTI Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] arm64: asm: Provide a mechanism for generating ELF note for BTI Mark Brown
2020-05-05 14:58   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 16:51     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 17:06     ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 11:26       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 12:38         ` Mark Brown
2020-05-06 13:44           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 15:39             ` Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] arm64: vdso: Annotate " Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] arm64: vdso: Force the vDSO to be linked as BTI when built " Mark Brown
2020-04-29 21:16 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] arm64: vdso: Map the vDSO text with guarded pages " Mark Brown
2020-04-30 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] arm64: BTI kernel and vDSO support Catalin Marinas
2020-04-30 17:23   ` Mark Brown

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