From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Keno Fischer <keno@juliacomputing.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Kyle Huey <khuey@pernos.co>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arm64: Register modification during syscall entry/exit stop
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 18:41:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200520174149.GB27629@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABV8kRzYzBrdzC1_opmmdpW63N2htfOsAUZ+RjiSDsy=SJW6Yg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Keno,
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 04:37:34AM -0400, Keno Fischer wrote:
> > Yes, we inherited this from ARM and I think strace relies on it. In
> > hindsight, it is a little odd, although x7 is a parameter register in the
> > PCS and so it won't be live on entry to a system call.
>
> I'm not familiar with the PCS acronym, but I assume you mean the
> calling convention? You have more faith in userspace than I do ;). For
> example, cursory googling brought up this arm64 syscall definition in musl:
>
> https://github.com/bminor/musl/blob/593caa456309714402ca4cb77c3770f4c24da9da/arch/aarch64/syscall_arch.h
Hmm, does that actually result in the SVC instruction getting inlined? I
think that's quite dangerous, since we document that we can trash the SVE
register state on a system call, for example. I'm also surprised that
the register variables are honoured by compilers if that inlining can occur.
> The constraints on those asm blocks allow the compiler to assume that
> x7 is preserved across the syscall. If a ptracer accidentally modified it
> (which is easy to do in the situations that I mentioned), it could
> absolutely cause incorrect execution of the userspace program.
>
> > Although the examples you've
> > listed above are interesting, I don't see why x7 is important in any of
> > them (and we only support up to 6 system call arguments).
>
> It's not so much that x7 is important, it's that lying to the ptracer is
> problematic, because it might remember that lie and act on it later.
> I did run into exactly this problem, where my ptracer accidentally
> changed the value of x7 and caused incorrect execution in the tracee
> (now that incorrect execution happened to be an assertion, because
> my application is paranoid about these kinds of issues, but it was
> incorrect nevertheless)
>
> If it would be helpful, I can code up the syscall entry -> signal trap example
> ptracer to have a concrete example.
I guess I'm more interested in situations where the compiler thinks x7 is
live, yet we clobber it.
Will
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-20 17:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-19 1:05 arm64: Register modification during syscall entry/exit stop Keno Fischer
2020-05-19 8:15 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-19 8:37 ` Keno Fischer
2020-05-20 17:41 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-05-23 5:35 ` Keno Fischer
2020-05-24 6:56 ` Keno Fischer
2020-05-27 9:55 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-27 10:19 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-31 9:33 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-31 16:13 ` Keno Fischer
2020-06-01 9:14 ` Dave Martin
2020-06-01 9:23 ` Keno Fischer
2020-06-01 9:52 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-31 16:20 ` Keno Fischer
2020-06-01 9:23 ` Dave Martin
2020-06-01 9:40 ` Keno Fischer
2020-06-01 9:59 ` Dave Martin
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