Re: [PATCH v7 22/29] arm64: mte: ptrace: Add PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}MTETAGS support

From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Luis Machado <luis.machado@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Omair Javaid <omair.javaid@linaro.org>,
	Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alan Hayward <Alan.Hayward@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dave P Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 22/29] arm64: mte: ptrace: Add PTRACE_{PEEK,POKE}MTETAGS support
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:56:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200822105607.GA16635@gaia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95f0294b-93fb-bc5e-5ae5-fd3ada2dc7ce@linaro.org>

Hi Luis,

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:01:06AM -0300, Luis Machado wrote:
> There has been changes to GDB's/LLDB's side to incorporate a tag type into
> the peek/poke requests. This is an attempt to anticipate required support
> for other tag types, like CHERI's tags. Those are somewhat different from
> MTE's tags.

Please note that Morello (the ARM's CHERI implementation) won't go into
mainline Linux for the time being. It's a development board to
experiment with CHERI and the architecture may eventually turn out
slightly different. Also note that the current Morello hardware doesn't
support MTE.

The tags are indeed different from the MTE ones, though both are just
additional metadata associated with a set of bytes in memory. It happens
that a tag in both cases corresponds to a 16-byte memory range.

> The core file design for storing tags, which is in progress and currently in
> my court, is also taking into account other types of tags.

It makes sense for the core file.

> Given the above, should we consider passing a type to the kernel ptrace
> requests as well?
> 
> Also, since the ptrace requests would have to handle different types of
> tags, should we rename PEEKMTETAGS/POKEMTETAGS to PEEKTAGS/POKETAGS instead
> and make those requests generic?

I'm not sure how we could pass a type since ptrace() only takes a single
argument for the request. We could use a different structure than iovec
and encode a type in a field in the new structure but I'd rather keep
the generic struct iovec. So basically the "MTE" part in PEEKMTETAGS is
the type.

Internally, the kernel implementation will probably translate the
request into a common function call with a tag type but for the
user-visible ptrace() interface, I don't see what benefits it would
bring. If you have a better suggestion on how to encode the type, I'm
open to discuss it.

-- 
Catalin

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