From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Stephen Boyd <swboyd@chromium.org>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 doesn't return SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 22:13:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201021211326.GA18548@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <160329672229.884498.3370140649393072677@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 09:12:02AM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> Quoting Will Deacon (2020-10-21 08:49:09)
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:23:54AM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > > If I'm reading the TF-A code correctly it looks like this will return
> > > SMC_UNK if the platform decides that "This flag can be set to 0 by the
> > > platform if none of the PEs in the system need the workaround." Where
> > > the flag is WORKAROUND_CVE_2017_5715 and the call handler returns 1 if
> > > the errata doesn't apply but the config is enabled, 0 if the errata
> > > applies and the config is enabled, or SMC_UNK (I guess this is
> > > NOT_SUPPORTED?) if the config is disabled[2].
> > >
> > > So TF-A could disable this config and then the kernel would think it is
> > > vulnerable when it actually isn't? The spec is a pile of ectoplasma
> > > here.
> >
> > Yes, but there's not a lot we can do in that case as we rely on the
> > firmware to tell us whether or not we're affected. We do have the
> > "safelist" as a last resort, but that's about it.
>
> There are quite a few platforms that set this config to 0. Should they
> be setting it to 1?
>
> tf-a $ git grep WORKAROUND_CVE_2017_5715 -- **/platform.mk | wc -l
> 17
A quick skim suggests that most (all?) of these are A53-based, so that's
on the safelist and will be fine.
> This looks like a disconnect between kernel and TF-A but I'm not aware
> of all the details here.
I think it's alright, as it's just a legacy problem (newer cores should
have CSV2 set) and older cores are safelisted.
> > > Does the kernel implement a workaround in the case that no guest PE is
> > > affected? If so then returning 1 sounds OK to me, but otherwise
> > > NOT_SUPPORTED should work per the spec.
> >
> > I don't follow you here. The spec says that "SMCCC_RET_NOT_SUPPORTED" is
> > valid return code in the case that "The system contains at least 1 PE
> > affected by CVE-2017-5715 that has no firmware mitigation available."
> > and do the guest would end up in the "vulnerable" state.
> >
>
> Returning 1 says "SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 can be invoked safely on all
> PEs in the system" so I am not sure that invoking it is from a guest is
> safe on systems that don't require the workaround? If it is always safe
> to invoke the call from guest to host then returning 1 should be fine
> here.
I think it's fine, as KVM will pick that up.
> My read of the spec was that the intent is to remove the call at some
> point and have the removal of the call mean that it isn't vulnerable.
No, the CSV2 field in whichever ID register is for that. We check that in
spectre_v2_get_cpu_hw_mitigation_state().
> Because NOT_SUPPORTED per the spec means "not needed", "maybe needed",
> or "firmware doesn't know". Aha maybe they wanted us to make the call on
> each CPU (i.e. PE) and then if any of them return 0 we should consider
> it vulnerable and if they return NOT_SUPPORTED we should keep calling
> for each CPU until we are sure we don't see a 0 and only see a 1 or
> NOT_SUPPORTED? Looks like a saturating value sort of thing, across CPUs
> that we care/know about.
The mitigation state is always per-cpu because of big/little systems, there
just isn't a short-cut for the firmware to say "all CPUs are unaffected"
like there is for SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_2 with its "NOT_REQUIRED" return
code.
Will
_______________________________________________
linux-arm-kernel mailing list
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-21 21:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-20 21:45 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: Fixes for spectre-v2 detection in guest kernels Stephen Boyd
2020-10-20 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: ARM_SMCCC_ARCH_WORKAROUND_1 doesn't return SMCCC_RET_NOT_REQUIRED Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 7:57 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 10:23 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-21 12:43 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 15:23 ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 15:49 ` Will Deacon
2020-10-21 16:12 ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 21:13 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-10-21 22:06 ` Stephen Boyd
2020-10-20 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: proton-pack: Update comment to reflect new function name Stephen Boyd
2020-10-21 15:44 ` [PATCH 0/2] arm64: Fixes for spectre-v2 detection in guest kernels Will Deacon
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20201021211326.GA18548@willie-the-truck \
--to=will@kernel.org \
--cc=andre.przywara@arm.com \
--cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
--cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=maz@kernel.org \
--cc=stable@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=steven.price@arm.com \
--cc=swboyd@chromium.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox