From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Cc: v.narang@samsung.com, a.sahrawat@samsung.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>,
Maninder Singh <maninder1.s@samsung.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Nathan Huckleberry <nhuck@google.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Jian Cai <caij2003@gmail.com>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] arm: introduce IRQ stacks
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2020 16:45:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201109144549.GA26857@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a3s9JJpeBpH38utw9aA1VaEkcBqKEGtwcmoP1zS6xDj5Q@mail.gmail.com>
* Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> [201021 16:07]:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:57 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
> <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 01:45:42PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> > > > > - define 'current' as 'this_cpu_read_stable(current_task);'
> > > > > - convert to CONFIG_THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK
> > >
> > > That means we need to also code that up in assembly - remember, we
> > > need to access thread_info from assembly code.
> >
> > Note also that there is a circular dependency involved. If you make
> > thread_info accessible via per-cpu, then:
> >
> > #ifndef __my_cpu_offset
> > #define __my_cpu_offset per_cpu_offset(raw_smp_processor_id())
> > #endif
> > #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > #define my_cpu_offset per_cpu_offset(smp_processor_id())
> > #else
> > #define my_cpu_offset __my_cpu_offset
> > #endif
>
> Right, I had missed the fallback path using asm-generic/percpu.h
> that is used with CONFIG_SMP && CONFIG_CPU_V6
> Almost everything either uses fixed percpu data (on UP builds)
> or TPIDRPRW when building a v7-only or v6k/v7 kernel without
> v6 support.
>
> > smp_processor_id() ultimately ends up as raw_smp_processor_id() which
> > is:
> >
> > #define raw_smp_processor_id() (current_thread_info()->cpu)
> >
> > and if current_thread_info() itself involves reading from per-cpu data,
> > we end up recursing... infinitely.
> >
> > This is why I said in the other thread:
> >
> > "We don't do it because we don't have a separate register to be able
> > to store the thread_info pointer, and copying that lump between the
> > SVC and IRQ stack will add massively to IRQ latency, especially for
> > older machines."
>
> As discussed on IRC, I think it can still be done in one of these
> ways, though admittedly none of them are perfect:
>
> a) add runtime patching for __my_cpu_offset() when
> CONFIG_SMP_ON_UP is set. This adds complexity but avoids the
> fallback for for SMP&&CPU_V6. It possibly also speeds up
> running on single-cpu systems if the TPIDRPRW access adds
> any measurable runtime overhead compared to patching it out.
Out of these options a) sounds best to me.
> b) If irq stacks are left as a compile-time option, that could be
> made conditional on "!(SMP&&CPU_V6)". Presumably very
> few people still run kernels built that way any more. The only
> supported platforms are i.MX3, OMAP2 and Realview-eb, all of
> which are fairly uncommon these days and would usually
> run v6-only non-SMP kernels.
This has been working just fine for years though. In general,
removing the conditional compile ifdefferey has made things quite
a bit easier for us, so let's continue on that.
> c) If we decide that we no longer care about that configuration
> at all, we could decide to just make SMP depend on !CPU_V6,
> and possibly kill off the entire SMP_ON_UP patching logic.
> I suspect we still want to keep SMP_ON_UP for performance
> reasons, but I don't know how significant they are to start with.
And this too has been working just fine for years :)
Regards,
Tony
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2020-10-08 7:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] IRQ stack support for ARM Maninder Singh
[not found] ` <CGME20201008071633epcas5p20f5c533ac67ab235997e7e4a8ad3022b@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2020-10-08 7:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] arm: introduce self pointer in thread info Maninder Singh
[not found] ` <CGME20201008071639epcas5p465f13d992a25936ba63436baf1fb6f83@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2020-10-08 7:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm: introduce IRQ stacks Maninder Singh
[not found] ` <CAK8P3a2RYeNiTy9QmwFVKtFifXxWc9XfAT6ThPoSH9wGYsKGpA@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-21 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-21 12:45 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-21 12:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-21 12:57 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-21 15:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-09 14:45 ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2020-11-09 19:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-10 9:19 ` Tony Lindgren
2020-11-10 10:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-10 12:04 ` Tony Lindgren
2020-11-10 13:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-11-11 6:56 ` Tony Lindgren
[not found] ` <CGME20201008071639epcas5p465f13d992a25936ba63436baf1fb6f83@epcms5p7>
2020-10-21 13:46 ` Vaneet Narang
[not found] ` <CGME20201008071644epcas5p1f5c220b5f58fd4251695af147325b7c4@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2020-10-08 7:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm: Modify stack trace and dump for use with irq stack Maninder Singh
2020-10-08 7:53 ` [PATCH 0/3] IRQ stack support for ARM Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2020-10-08 8:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-15 20:59 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-10-15 21:16 ` Florian Fainelli
[not found] ` <CAK8P3a0h=D8_Kn_fpHbsik_jf4to2jayxj7K7B7=HaNFzKqNnw@mail.gmail.com>
2020-10-21 11:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-21 12:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-21 12:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
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